One major drawback to the upcoming cloud will be service subscription fees.

A few pluses include (hopefully) lower potential for virus infection and fewer maintenance headaches.

Rollin
On 1/18/2014 9:12 PM, Jim Grimsby JR. wrote:
Keven you just can't compare the modern day cloud to main frames of the 0s.  ok 
yes some of the concepts are the same.  Just as some operating systems used the 
word processer as it's shell and now you  have the browser being used as a 
shell.  Very similar  concepts but the end resolt is not the same at all. new 
concept no.  very different  implamentation yes.  No I don't see this as a bad 
thing. As with anything of course there might be draw backs at times but for 
the most part this is a good thing.
Hth


-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Huber [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 1:39 PM
To: Jim Grimsby JR.
Cc: RicksPlace; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Ready For The Cloud?

Hi Jim and all:
Some of us might remember back in the 1970s when computing used to be done on 
mainframes and we used dumb terminals.  When the first personal computers came 
out, it was a step forward to be able to have all your processing capability 
and all your software right in front of you and to be able to save your work on 
a local medium.
Now, if indeed Microsoft is going to the cloud, it sounds like a major step 
back to those days which I just talked about.
What do you think?
Kevin Huber

On 1/14/14, Jim Grimsby JR. <[email protected]> wrote:
Well I will not remark on wether or not Microsoft  will or will not
shift us completely to the cloud. There are good reasons to do this
and good reasons not to do this.  I am not sure what camp Microsoft is
in. one thing I will say though is I fermly believe that windows pro
is heading for a phone device near you. Microsoft windows phone has
failed.  In fact quite frankly I don’t think it was ever intended  to
really do all that well.  the whole idea behind windows phone was to
keep the name Microsoft in the mobile market. Microsoft has been
waiting tell such time as the phone devices were powerful enough to
power a full fledged computing operating system. When you could get a
reasonable battery life out of such a beast. Well the chips are
powerful enough now.  There is enough flash memery now.  The batterys
are here now.  This means that windows pro has to come to a phone.
This means that Microsoft will be launching a updated version of its
operating system this year.  They have to. Windows 9 maybe.  What ever
it is I am guessing from now on Microsoft will provide free updates to
users of windows 8 and above from hence forth. The operating system is
not the cash cow  for Microsoft that it once was.  They will do the
operating system as a distribution system  just as android is for
google. At some point they will probably deal with the fact that there
really are not a lot of modern apps and more for IOS and android buy
allowing android apps to run on windows. I do think you will see more
and more cloud apps yes.  I don’t think though that windows will go
completely to the cloud. I don’t really think that most people are
really comfortable  with this idea, and I don’t think they will ever
be so. Second if you had a outage of any kind your operating system
just would not boot.  Nope don’t see it. finely your last point if
screen reader companys are thinking about this.  doesn’t matter at
some point Microsoft is going to have to build a screen reader in to
the kernel of windows that will perform all the tasks of a screen
reader running at the process level. The arguments against this no
longer apply. So the screen reading companys might want to be thinking
about celling there technology to Microsoft and highering on as
consoltance or doing something else altogether.  The days of the
screen reader ceperate from the operating system are numbered.



From: RicksPlace [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:35 AM
To: GW Micro Product Discussion Listserv
Subject: Ready For The Cloud?



Hi:

Here is an article about the Microsoft plans for the Windows Operating
System in the next 2 or 3 years.

I dont think the current state of screen readers are anywhere ready
for this change but perhaps we will hear something from GW about this
planned quantum change since we know how the current state of screen
readers work with things like cloud computing, google and other CMS
Style internet interfaces.

Here is the article I read:

  8 is approaching its one-year birthday, and while that usually means
a new version is in the works for most products, Microsoft  usually
puts a few years in between versions to keep things steady.
However, the
company may be speeding things up, as, according to Geek.com ,  it’s
rumored that Windows 9 is planned for release sometime next year.
According to an anonymous source
who goes by WZOR
  (and who has been behind numerous Microsoft leaks in the past),
Windows 9 will see the light of day in 2014. No other details were
provided, other than the claim that Aero would be making a comeback in
Windows 9 after disappearing in Windows 8, since it was a hot feature
that many avid Windows users missed.
Details on Windows 10 were also provided, with claims that the future
operating system will be a “cloud OS,” meaning that all of the
processing and computing would be done on Microsoft’s servers, and be
streamed to your computer, completely eliminating the need for a
powerful rig and only requiring the basic bits to run peripherals and
such. Windows 10 would essentially just be a new cloud service for
Microsoft, on top of Office 365  and the new Xbox Cloud on Xbox One ,
pushing the company further into the cloud ecosystem.
Of course, we would like to remind you to take these rumors with a
grain of salt, as WZOR says he received the information from a third
party, which means the info could’ve easily gotten misinterpreted on
the way, similar to a game of telephone that you used to play in grade
school. The technology for a full cloud OS is certainly there, but it
definitely needs a bit of work before Microsoft can make it a
mainstream product. Here’s hoping that the company can pull it off,
and by then local storage may be a thing of the past.
Until then, we’re still waiting for
  Windows 8.1′s release in October
, so let’s not get too ahead of ourselves.
DT.

Well, gang, how well does WE work with 365, Google and with other
internet cloud based projects like word processors, database managers
and now it looks like operating systems - Google Chrome etc... comes to mind.

Lets hope the Screen Reader companies are doing their homework!

This will be a quantum change in the underlying code base and
accessibility issues and especially surrounding legacy Operating Systems me 
thinks.

Rick USA


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