You're absolutely right. And that's a real shame!       

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 3:21 PM
To: Stephen Clark; [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bad News, Good News

Not likely an inside job. There is a reason this was done as an app update
and not a part of a patch to Window eyes itself. The app central server has
always been quite open to allow users of Window eyes to develop and share
apps. The apps themselves are insular from Window Eyes itself, IOW you
couldn't get an app to wreck people's Window Eyes, you could only do things
that would affect performance as long as the app is running.

Up until now, nobody has taken advantage of this openness. Now, thanks to
one person's idiocy, AI Squared is going to have to take measures to keep
this from happening again. I am sure we will still get user developed apps,
but the process is going to become slower and more complicated.

Regards,

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Clark
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Bad News, Good News

I find it very disconcerting as well that it happened right after the
product is released by ASQuare. I'm thinking it's an inside job with in the
company. Unless they really gave that much control over to their consumers.
In that case, WOW! that's even worse.

Either way, the whole thing is really sick.

On 1/16/2015 3:19 PM, Chris Skarstad wrote:
> obviously this individual possesses a real knowledge of Window-eyes 
> scripting, to the point that they were able to circumvent GW Micro/AI 
> Squared's app update servers, and set it so the announcement would 
> happen every few minutes.  That's not something the average joe user 
> knows how to do. it's very disconcerting, and I hope this individual 
> will not be allowed to continue with these antics.
>
>
>
>
> On 1/16/2015 2:52 PM, net bat wrote:
>> they are testing the waters, so to speak to see how far they could go. if
>> they attack     again they will do real damage to us if they are not
>> stopped.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chris Skarstad
>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 11:39 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Bad News, Good News
>>
>>                     Well, the beta process ended when the full 
>> window-eyes 9 was released a couple days ago, so no harm was done 
>> there.  Really, all this individual did was insert a bunch of scary 
>> words into an app update.  Folks either found it annoying or 
>> disturbing, probably a bit of both, but no actual harm to any systems was
done.
>> That doesn't mean that someone might not try, which is why AI Squared 
>> is beefing up security.  Good idea there.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>> On 1/16/2015 1:41 PM, Max G. Swanson wrote:
>>> The bad news is of course that our insular world of sightless 
>>> computing has apparently been invaded by some mean-spirited hacker.  
>>> GW Toolkit, as an app on practically all systems running W.E., is 
>>> certainly a good target choice if there's ill intent.
>>>
>>> The good news is that the leak has been plugged, and the whole 
>>> program is running somewhat smoother with the updated toolkit 
>>> installed. Perhaps this effort sabotaged the whole beta process.
>>>
>>> Hope I'm not opening a can of worms by discussing this subject, as I 
>>> didn't see mention of it in the latest Digest--only in the 
>>> announcement from AI Squared.  Of course my reading of the latter 
>>> half of said digest was hampered by some of the usual 
>>> stop-and-start, and the Browse-Mode-Find feature's confusing 
>>> number-signs with greater-thans during multiple searches.
>>>
>>> Things are, nevertheless, improving, thanks to the savvy and 
>>> vigilant crew at GW/AI!
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