What’s a flyover, and how can you tell or identify that there are flyovers on a page? I’m asking because this could be the case with a site I visit a lot called freeconferencecalling.com. When I try to find the recordings link or tab that used to read in WE 8.4 under ie8, I’m an unsuccessful in getting WE to tell me anything about that link even though I change WE settings for the most part. I did notice though when I turn speak tooltips on, sometimes I can get it to read the long description of the link only after I escape out of the WE control panel.
From: Chris [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 8:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Audible site changes are indeed caused by Window Eyes 9 and not by changes by Audible After discussing this issue, the one about the mouse flyover no longer appearing when one browses a list of Audible books, the flyover that appeared as a heading to users of Window Eyes and that included information such as a portion of the publisher’s summary for books, thus making the lists easy to navigate and made it so one could get an idea of book plots without having to open the page for each and every book, I figured that I would have to appeal to Audible since I was assured that the changes were in the Audible site and not because of any changes in Window eyes 9. I was told that the issue had reached the limits of Window eyes technical support since it was an Audible issue. I believed this to be true and since I can’t afford any advanced support beyond that which I paid for with my SMAs, I sent in a request to Audible that the flyovers be restored. I got a response that they had not made any major changes that removed the flyovers. So, I got someone who is st ill using Window Eyes 8.4 to go to audible and check it out. The results of this trip were flyovers everywhere they were expected and the ability to navigate by heading due to the presence of the flyovers. So, the issue is, indeed something to do with a change in Window Eyes. These objects are still there on the page, Window Eyes 9 is just not displaying them. I have not been able to get them to appear by changing settings with Window eyes 9. As this is an issue of a loss of accessibility in a page previously displayed correctly by Window eyes. I hope that AI Squared might investigate and try to find a way to return the accessibility of this site with Window eyes to its previous level. Audible isn’t perfect and since they are owned by Amazon, I have doubts that what issues existed with the last few versions of window eyes are likely to be addressed by them any time soon. But those issues were surmountable and one of the things that made using the site much easier was those flyovers. Currently with Window eyes 9, one has to navigate through lists of books by tabbing through links or by navigating by lists. The llists method is made more clumsy by a problem requiring users to arr ow down past the links of the names of a book’s author and narrator because clicking on “l” before that point will return one to the top of that book’s listing and on top of that, if the book is part of a series, the area with the link to the series page is also a list. one must click through. Window Eyes also doesn’t read much information when one navigates through the book listings and when it does read links, it often reads the URL instead of the link text. Then, since there isn’t any plot information in the listings, one has to go into the page of each book one is interested in considering to read the publisher’s summary and then must return to the list to continue through the rest of the titles. None of this makes the page inaccessible, but Window eyes 9 is a major improvement on so many things and it shouldn’t take a step backwards on a site that is used by so many blind consumers. As I typed this, the person who checked the Audible site out for me went and tried with NVDA and the flyover headings were there with it as well, so it is definitely doable to get them to display. Regards, Chris If you reply to this message it will be delivered to the original sender only. If your reply would benefit others on the list and your message is related to GW Micro, then please consider sending your message to [email protected] so the entire list will receive it. GW-Info messages are archived at http://www.gwmicro.com/gwinfo. You can manage your list subscription at http://www.gwmicro.com/listserv.
