Ok, I fixed the problem.  I changed the program to not tell me it thought 
things were scams and I allowed mail to show text etc.  This fixed both 
problems I was having.  The only problem I have now is that to try to fix the 
conflict between thunderbird and windoweyes they disabled the keystroke for 
windoweyes and for now took it off the computer.  I plan to put it back when I 
can think of a good hotkey, but for now ctrl alt w does not allow me to write 
with thunderbird.  I just love windows 8, don't you?  Kurt
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