Thanks for the the follow up, Raul. I looked at the Install Packages code again, and am baffled. I find nothing that would explain this. I do know that Window-Eyes monitors timing of keypresses in a listbox so that one can type the first few letters of an item, rather than just the initial letter. This makes me think that the problem is caused by that timing related code.
Jamal On Sat, 27 Sep 2008, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 14:48:31 -0400 > From: Raul A. Gallegos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Odd behavior with navigating install packages > > Hello Jamal. I just did the following and I still only see this behavior > with your script. Actually, it seems to be your script only regardless > of Vista or XP. > > 1. Tested with the listbox in the set file manager selection. I stayed > in the A list. Pressing the letter A immediately or after waiting for > the speech to finish would voice the next A selection. > > 2. Steve's Voice rotor script. I brought up the configuration where it > shows the list box to choose synthesizers. Again I just pressed A. > Whether I did it right away during speech or after waiting a few seconds > after speech stopped, the next A synthesizer would always be voiced. > > Let me know if you need me to test further. > > Jamal Mazrui said the following on 9/27/2008 12:48 PM: > > I did test with a Window-Eyes multiple selection listbox, so perhaps that > > is different. In case the synthesizer selection listbox acts a bit > > differently than others (I forget whether it changes the voice with a new > > selection), it may be worth trying other listboxes as well. Also, if you > > can think of scripts others have developed that use a listbox, I'm curious > > whether the navigation experience is different. > > > > Jamal > > On Fri, 26 Sep > > 2008, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > > > >> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:34:30 -0400 > >> From: Raul A. Gallegos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: Odd behavior with navigating install packages > >> > >> Hello Jamal. I cannot confirm this on XP. I must admit I was in Vista > >> when the problem was noticed. Below is what I did in XP. > >> > >> I just turned off scripting and went into the select synthesizer dialog > >> box. I pressed the letter d twice to get to the second DECtalk > >> synthesizer. I waited for the speech to stop. I pressed D again and it > >> read the third DECtalk synthesizer. So, in order I heard the Window-Eyes > >> DECtalk, then the stand-alone DECtalk, then the DECtalk Express, and > >> lastly the DECtalk USB. So, no matter if I stopped to let the speech > >> finish or if I interrupted, pressing the D key always took me in the > >> right order. As I said, I'll try this with Vista later and report my > >> findings. > >> > >> Jamal Mazrui said the following on 9/26/2008 1:21 PM: > >>> Thanks for reporting this, Raul. I confirmed the problem, but upon > >>> investigation, think it is a Window-Eyes rather than script issue. The > >>> script does not customize navigation within the listbox -- it just > >>> monitors the change in selected item event and updates the Details edit > >>> box with corresponding information. > >>> > >>> More importantly, however, I tried with a Window-Eyes listbox and got the > >>> same behavior. Specifically, I tried with a list of files in Package > >>> Manager. If three start with the same letter, and you are on the second > >>> of them, pressing the letter, after speech has stopped, goes to the first > >>> rather than the third one. I got the same result with scripting turned > >>> off. > >>> > >>> Jamal > >>> -- Original Message-- > >>> From: Raul A. Gallegos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:01 PM > >>> To: [email protected] > >>> Subject: Odd behavior with navigating install packages > >>> > >>> Hello Jamal. The following is an oddity we've discovered in navigating the > >>> list of install packages. It's a bit tricky to explain so I'll do my best. > >>> > >>> It seems that if you press a letter to navigate to scripts beginning with > >>> that letter, and you keep pressing the letter, things work as they should. > >>> However if you press the letter let us say on the second script of that > >>> letter and let us say there are 3 or more of them. If you wait for speech > >>> to stop and another second or two, then you press the same letter again, > >>> instead of moving forward in the list to the next one by that same letter, > >>> install packages moves to the first one of the list of that letter. Below > >>> is an example. > >>> > >>> Press l once, it reads the first one, for me it's . learn scripting. > >>> Press it again > >>> immediately and the next one is read, for me it's loaded scripts. Keep > >>> doing this and interrupting it and you will find the next one is selected > >>> each time. OK, good so far so good. You can do this until you are blue in > >>> the ... face and it will rotor back to the first one and so on and so > >>> forth. > >>> > >>> For the bug. > >>> > >>> Now, press l until you hear the second or third one, preferably the second > >>> one to prove my point. Wait a few seconds when it's done speaking. Now > >>> press l one last time. Rather than continuing forward to the third one, it > >>> goes to the first one in the l list. So what I suspect is happening is > >>> that pressing the letter for what the script considers the first time, > >>> meaning after a pause, it goes to the first one of that group of scripts > >>> which begin with that letter. Definitely not as normal list boxes behave. > >>> > >>> Many thanks. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Raul A. Gallegos .. GW Micro Technical Support > >>> Voice: 260-489-3671 .. Fax: 260-489-2608 > >>> WEB: http://www.gwmicro.com > >>> FTP: ftp.gwmicro.com > >> > >> -- > >> Raul A. Gallegos -- GW Micro Technical Support > >> Voice: 260-489-3671 -- Fax: 260-489-2608 > >> WEB: http://www.gwmicro.com > >> > > > -- > Raul A. Gallegos -- GW Micro Technical Support > Voice: 260-489-3671 -- Fax: 260-489-2608 > WEB: http://www.gwmicro.com >
