Hi Doug,

    Vic had asked why I did not add hotkeys to get to menus so I responded 
with the lack of a focus to a menuItem in the menu methods.

    I was assuming that he may of wanted a hotkey to get to either the 
clocks menu or announce menu or something like that. You know, like the alt 
F key combination to get to the file menu or other menu items in a standard 
menu.

    For the menu list is limited to checked and things like that, but no 
focus method.

    Not a major deal for me, just others thoughts.

        Bruce

Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: Cuckoo Clock Ready for Upload


Bruce,

You said: "...since Doug and them said they did not want to expose
menu's items I am limited on using hotkeys for it, since there is no
focus option."

Can you explain what you mean by this?  I don't understand why in your
own menu you need menu items and without them you are forced to hotkeys.

Doug


On 6/12/2011 4:08 PM, BT wrote:
> Hi Vic,
>
>      There is only one chime on the hour if you select chime only and in 
> the
> edit menu it states top of the hour. I guess poor wording on my part.
>
>      Another issue, since Doug and them said they did not want to expose
> menu's items I am limited on using hotkeys for it, since there is no focus
> option. but, I have added the Escape and F4 options to get out of the 
> menu,
> since there is a dialog close command easy to get to.
>
>      Now, I can also change the ChimeOnly to say Top Of the Hour Chime 
> Only
> to make it read easier. After all that is what I did in the edit menu.
>
>      I think to get around most issues is to eventually get out of using a
> menu and having a list. For there is very few options to use in a menu. 
> For
> it would be nice to be able to jumped to a given menu item from a hotkey
> instead of using a minimum of 2 keystrokes. In other words have at least a
> focus property.
>
>      So maybe I will have something to upload today unless there more of
> those pesky Active X errors that crop up when the menu does not like what 
> I
> did...
>
>          Bruce
>
>
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 3:20 PM
> Subject: RE: Cuckoo Clock Ready for Upload
>
>
> Bruce,
>
> Yes. Changing the path got my sounds working. I am not clear on what the
> chime and chime only settings are supposed to do. When I set it to chime
> only, I hear just one chime. I thought this was supposed to chime the 
> number
> of times for the hour. When I set it to chime and count, I hear the number
> of chimes for the hour, but not any indication of the count. Is that what 
> is
> supposed to be happening?
>
> BTW: It is triggering correctly. My earlier complaint about not triggering
> was not correct after I re-installed.
>
> Great job!!!!! I look forward to the update.
>
> Vic
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BT [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:18 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Cuckoo Clock Ready for Upload
>
> Hi Again Vic,
>
>      The problem with the .wav files is the path to find them is my path 
> and
> yours I am sure is different.
>
>      I think the easiest fix is for you to go into each sound edit and the
> default will come up for your sound file. It is using the path of my
> computer in the .ini file and probably my mistake not thinking it would be 
> a
>
> problem.
>      For I should have not had any sounds and let it find the defaults 
> when
> first looking at the InitCuckooClock procedure, then all of this would 
> have
> been no issue.
>
>      So, now when packaging up my fixes and your suggestions today, I will
> get rid of all my settings in the .ini file and let the init section do 
> it.
>
>      Sorry about the hassle and my rush to get it out. but, that is the 
> way
> to find out the obvious mistakes a programmer works around when 
> programming.
>
>      I was going to change the files for voice and the 45 may be a merge
> instead of other files to even get off beat times instead of just
> quarter/half hour voices. Something I was going to add later but may do it
> now.
>
>      My issue last night instead of coming up a fatal error finally came 
> up
> with the line number. I had fallen asleep and changed just one variable 
> name
>
> by adding a t at the beginning. But, kept coming up with nasty fatal 
> Active
> X error that got or went no where beyond the error itself. so just a few
> minutes ago when powering up it did tell me the line and sure enough it 
> was
> inside the sleep procedure I was playing with and had settings that would
> have triggered it then last night and that is where it fell apart...
>      Thank god for the Option Explicit command...
>
>      So, vic try the editing of all the sound files and letting it do the
> defaults inside the brows command and save them and I think that will fix
> the sound problems except the 45 one. When making it I had all 60 voices 
> and
>
> got conservative in how large I wanted the wav files and that one got
> shrunk...
>      Time to get ready for Sunday School adult class...
>          Bruce
>
>
>
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 8:05 PM
> Subject: RE: Cuckoo Clock Ready for Upload
>
>
> Bruce,
>
> I think this app has great potential, but needs a few rough edges worked 
> out
> yet. It is not working very well for me here on Windows 7 SP1 X64. Here 
> are
> the problems I am having.
>
> When I first installed the app, I disabled the following menu items: Alarm
> Enable, Date/Time Enhancement, and Rooster Wakeup Enable. I left the clock
> set to Quarter Hour chime. On the edit menu I set the Sleep Time to 11:00 
> PM
> and the Wakeup Time to 8:00 AM. On the Announcement menu, I left it set 
> for
> Chime and Female.
>
> When it does announce the time, which it does not seem to do regularly, I
> only hear the female voice, not the chimes. If I choose Test Announcement, 
> I
> again only hear the female voice, not the chimes. I did not change any of
> the default sounds.
>
> If I set it to Chime Only and do a test, I hear nothing.
>
> If I set it to Chime and Count and do a test, I hear only the chimes.
>
> If I set it to Chime and Male or Chime and Female and test, I hear only 
> the
> specified voice, not the chimes.
>
> The male 45 sound is not the same as the rest of the sounds.
>
> If I set it to Male Only or Female Only and test, it seems to work
> correctly.
>
> There are also several issues with the dialog that I don't understand:
>
> You can't press Alt-C to bring up the Clock menu even though C is 
> announced
> as the hot key. The other menu hot keys do not work as well.
>
> When you have the dialog up and alt-tab to it, the Alt key does not bring 
> up
> the menu the first time you press it. You have to press it at least twice 
> to
> bring up the menus.
>
> You can't just press Escape to exit the dialog. Alt-F4 does not work 
> either.
> The only way I have found to close the dialog is to open the Clock menu 
> and
> choose the Exit choice. This is a nuisance, especially since it is so hard
> to get into the menus in the first place.
>
> For some reason, it seems to take longer than usual to bring up the 
> dialog.
>
> I just re-installed and all these issues still exist, but it seems as 
> though
> the announcement is firing better.
>
> This is purely based on my experience with the app and I hope you will 
> take
> this as constructive criticism as it is meant, not putting down your app.
> Let me know if you can duplicate any or all of these issues.
>
> Thanks for all your effort in putting out this full-featured app.
>
> Vic
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BT [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 12:49 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Cuckoo Clock Ready for Upload
>
>
> Hi!
>
>      My cuckoo Clock version 1.0 is ready for upload now.
>
>      In this app you will have a menu consisting of:
> Clocks Settings to turn on/off all options for sleep, alarm and even noon
> whistle.
>      In that menu is a chime option for once an hour, every half hour and
> every quarter hour.
>
> The app starts with the Rooster Crowing, it indicates it is running but 
> that
>
> alert can be shut off in the clocks menu.
>
>      It has some of the features of the old Hourly Chime program and many 
> new
>
> aspects.
>
>      In the edit menu you can change the files you wish to use for your
> alerts to make sounds, such as the Cuckoo clock itself.
>
>      Those sound files require a certain number of seconds to run and that
> also must be entered.
>      So for editing sound files you will have a path, file name, and 
> duration
>
> of play time in tenths of a second to enter; (seconds is a combo box 
> choice
> and requiring no entry.)
>      There is also the edit option for setting the sleep time, wakeup 
> time,
> and a alarm that runs separate from the others to give you an alert for a
> specific time of day. All those entries are a combo box selection as well.
>
>      The sleep mode will turn on and shut off the chiming of the program.
> When wakeup happens the Rooster crows, or a sound of your choosing.
>      That Rooster also can be shut off if you just want it to wakeup and 
> say
> nothing as I had mentioned earlier.
>
>      There is a format menu which is only for the 12 verses the 24 hour
> format, which ever you wish; default is 12 hour.
>
>      So, next is to get it uploaded and for everyone to find all the bugs 
> in
> it...
>
>          Sincerely
>          Bruce
>

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