Hi Chip,

    I had mentioned once about the Cuckoo Clock program and selling something.
    The comment came after mentioning that, but if and when I was adding 
something to the Cuckoo Clock program that I might have a demo time period on 
and then have it shut down if not paid for. Had nothing to do with the actual 
Cuckoo Clock program.

    But, I have not had the time, nor a computer, to do it. In the end may not 
even sell it.

    It was a thought after spending a lot of time adding other features and 
such which work nice, but just have not done it. I have given some bug fixes 
out which were minor but have not even uploaded my latest version because was 
still experimenting on things like the Tree Menu. That works nice and may even 
do it all through the program which will take a little time.

    The other additions which will make that program run easier in other 
languages have pushed it off.

    The music program I wrote in Python can be used once I make the Com 
connections for it. I only posted a simple version that runs in Python and does 
not require Python to be loaded. I only placed in the methods used such as the 
queue, but that queue method restricts other options such as replaying at will 
or repeat times at will. 
    But, creating a list can fix that problem and only use the queue if one 
wants an continuous play untouched and seamless...

    I think there might even be others on this list who have used Python and 
created com stuff, but researching while waiting and see where it leads me in 
terms of make Python objects for the WE app list.

        Bruce

Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 4:48 PM
Subject: RE: new Music Menu app


congrats to both of you on your new apps.

I'm not sure I remember the comment you're mentioning Bruce, but I think a 
better way of thinking about things (because no one is actually selling any of 
the apps you may have meant by "our work") is that we're doing this in order to 
share with others, because at some time in our own personal pasts, others have 
shared things with us.

Don't let me stop you from selling your apps if you feel that's what you want 
to do, I just wanted to bring up the issue of how much help and time we've all 
received from others at one time.  No one is unfairly benefiting if we choose 
to try and "pay it forward" with some effort of our own.

Chip




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From: bb [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 12:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: new Music Menu app



Hi Jeff,

    I sent you and other my python app that almost does the same thing but only 
did the simple queue without drawing from a list.

    Besides that app, if it runs I am going to compile it as a com object to be 
allowed to run inside the WE apps and be used on the global object list as this 
one is run.

    Maybe it will only play MP3, OGG and WAV, but it is all about learning. My 
attempt is to bind the Python library into WE usage and if it works, then a lot 
more powerful stuff can also be run.

    At this point I will mention a comment made weeks ago, about selling the 
apps. An interesting comment, which was asked when Mike was on the Chip Orange 
tutorial Sunday night. I did not ask the question, but it has become an 
interesting discussion by some, saying, "We do the work and another person 
sells it..."

    When I get my 7.5 computer back, and probably purchase a second, I will 
keep on developing in hopes of comments as I have mentioned don't poison the 
atmosphere...

        Sincerely
        Bruce

Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 12:24 AM
Subject: new Music Menu app


I have just posted a new app called
MusicMenu
This app will play files from a list and it uses the new GWAudioKit to play 
several file types.
If the GWAudioKit is not installed, the app will still work, but it will only 
play .wav files, and some functions will not be available.
The help text follows:

Press Alt-Shift-M to play music files. 
Select a file from the list and press play to hear the file. 
Press next to hear the next selection. 
Pres previous to hear the previous selection. 
Press pause_resume to stop and resume a selection.
Press repeat_song to keep playing the same song repeatedly.
Press stop to stop a file or just select another file and press play. 
Press close to close the app.  If A song is playing when you close the app, it 
will continue to play.
Press help to go to the standard help dialog. 
Press up arrow and down arrow on the volume control. 
The volume can be adjusted from 1 to 10--the default is 5.
The new volume will take effect any time a song starts playing--using play, 
next, previous, or pause_resume.

The short-cuts for the options are listed below: 
Play--enter 
Next--n 
Previous--p 
Pause_Resume--a
Repeat_Song--r
Stop--s 
Close--escape 
Help--h 
Volume--v
All of the music files that you want included in the list 
must be in a subfolder of the folder where the MusicMenu app resides. 
The subfolder which is created is called "MusicMenu" 
This app requires the GWAudioKit to be fully functional.
If the GWAudioKit is not installed, the app will still work; 
however, only .wav files will be played.
Also, pause_resume, repeat_song, and volume will not be available!

note: when using previous or next, the keys must be pressed twice in a row to 
get things started--then continuing in the same direction will work as expected.

Jeff Weiss

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