Yeah especially when things that should be implemented in simple listboxes 
don't give any feedback.  Though SharpDevelop is completely reliant on WPF. How 
worth it is it to try and investigate making WPF more accessible with WE?  Is 
that already happening where MSAA is being swapped for UIA?

From: Chip Orange [mailto:lists3...@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 4:50 PM
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com
Subject: RE: an idea, but how to go about it when I get there?

Katherine,

Also, have a look at the TreeView app from GW; it gives you a detailed 
structure of all the controls and other elements of an application, along with 
their MSAA information, and their hierarchical relationships.  All of these can 
give you clues as to what each control is really doing.  Still, there's no real 
straight forward answer to this question; it's as much an art as a science when 
trying to figure out how a program's UI works.

Chip


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From: Katherine Moss 
[mailto:katherine.m...@gordon.edu]<mailto:[mailto:katherine.m...@gordon.edu]>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 11:12 AM
To: gw-scripting@gwmicro.com<mailto:gw-scripting@gwmicro.com>
Subject: an idea, but how to go about it when I get there?
Hello all,
I'm curious.  I was just comparing the accessibility of the  SharpDevelop IDE 
with JAWS with that of WE and I find that neither one makes any difference.  
Both of them have accessibility problems in all of the dialogs and beyond.  The 
obvious thing would be to script it once my programming skills get better, 
right? I would say so, but how does one go about doing that when they don't 
know what the controls and stuff are supposed to say anyway?   This is driving 
me nuts because SharpDevelop might be a fantastic option for those programmers 
who want a professional grade IDE but can't afford the likes of the 
professional version of Visual Studio.  The biggest problem I see is that lists 
are not read and radio buttons have spoken state, but their content is not 
labeled.  Have any of you smart scripters figured out a way to get to stuff 
like that without the help of a sighted individual at all?  (I despise the 
prospect of having to ask a sighted person anything that has to do with that 
because it means that they must stop what they are doing.)

Katherine Moss,
Administrator of the AccessCop Network, previously Raeder24.org.  Visit us on 
the web at http://raeder24.org<http://raeder24.org/>

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