Hi Vic,

Your comments are most helpful.  Thanks.  Yes, the more I use these web-like 
interfaces, the more I realize that we're always trying to make a silk purse 
out of a sow's ear, as the old saying goes.  Last night, I upgraded Windows 
Live Mail by uninstalling the old version and installing the current one.  No 
difference for the problems I'm having.  I also installed Firefox and 
Thunderbird, and so I'm good to go if I want to convert all my e-mail to 
Thunderbird.  I'm just thinking about it all right now.  I guess I'm just 
fighting the idea of spending money on MS Office, although I'm not exactly 
poor. Smile.  It's more of an issue of principle over poverty.  By the way, 
Vic, how did you like the upgrade to RodMasterVolumePresetRotator.  You are the 
one to motivate me to write it up. Smile. Thanks for everything.

Take care,

Rod

From: Vic Beckley 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:35 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: RE: E-mail client accessibility

Rod,



I personally have used Outlook for many years and really like it a lot. I know 
a lot of people complain about it, but I couldn’t live without it. I use it 
both for e-mail and calendar and find it to be very accessible. The latest 
Outlook Enhance app is a tremendous help when reading your mail since it loads 
the messages into the browse mode buffer. It isn’t perfect but, again, I 
couldn’t live without it. For me, Outlook is pretty reliable.



If you need a free e-mail client, I know many people use Thunderbird. I know 
Steve at GW uses it and he is blind. I think the accessibility of Thunderbird 
has gotten better lately. I have never used it so you guys who do correct me if 
I am wrong.



These are just my thoughts. I hope they are helpful in some way.





Best regards from Ohio,



Vic



From: Rod Hutton [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 9:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: E-mail client accessibility



Hi Chip,



On an unrelated matter, I’m using Windows Live Mail for my e-mail client 
(mainly, for the moment, because it’s free).  However, for literally months, 
I’ve had tracking issues in my message window and I’m  about a step and a half 
away from getting some cash together to buy the MS Office Suite and so be able 
to use Outlook.  I noticed you are using Outlook (from viewing your message 
details        ), and I was wondering how you like it, and do you have any 
accessibility issues?



Also, anyone reading this:  what’s the best e-mail client from the point of 
view of accessibility?  Bruce, I see you are using the reliable old Outlook 
Express, but, unfortunately, Windows 7 barred the use of it...too bad for me! :)



Thanks, Chip, and everyone,



Rod Smile



From: Chip Orange 

Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 7:38 PM

To: [email protected] 

Subject: RE: Cuckoo Clock Sleep/Screen Saver mode Fix



Bruce,







Let me just warn you to pay attention when you upload an updated app; be sure 
to look at the follow-up screen after you click on the “update app” button; I 
am unable to update my app right now because the GW web site keeps saying my 
new .wepm file has a virus, and it won’t let me apply my new update.



Unfortunately though, it seems to tell users though there’s been an update, 
even though the update didn’t get uploaded.  I wasn’t paying close attention to 
the follow-up web page, so I hadn’t notice that GW was rejecting it.







Hopefully GW will get to look at this soon.







Chip











From: BX [mailto:[email protected]] 

Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 3:09 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: Cuckoo Clock Sleep/Screen Saver mode Fix







OK Chip,



    I have the other changes just have not packaged it up.



    I guess I could do that now. I spent this afternoon getting more chapters 
for the VB 2010 and C++ from the on-line book...and now done with that.



        Bruce







Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2013 2:10 PM



Subject: RE: Cuckoo Clock Sleep/Screen Saver mode Fix







Not yet Bruce, afraid when I have free time I’m chasing my own bugs  <grin>







Chip











From: BX [mailto:[email protected]] 

Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:25 PM

To: [email protected]

Subject: Cuckoo Clock Sleep/Screen Saver mode Fix











Hi Chip,







    did you fix the Cuckoo Clock issue? On line 795 is the fault and adding the 
mod 15 for a minute test should fix it. I have a flag test added and may post 
the fix tonight which will include a on/off flag for those who like it 
announcing when out of sleep mode as David had suggested. I actually can 
duplicate the issue when my tower goes into sleep mode from the screen saver 
event...







       Sincerely







       Bruce



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