Hi Guys,

    There are usually a variety of reasons for encrypting. I did so those who 
wish to work around, or prevent someone from obtaining information from a web 
page, having the entire app visible would give that person, or hacker the 
ability to see what you did and modify there web site...

    But like Chip said, he can send it privately to anyone who asks; as I did 
with Rod and my program, that Chip gave him what he needed anyway to make it 
short and simple.
    Some times depending on what object, such as IE, does cause problems if 
some do not use it though.

    So much for my $0.02

        Bruce

Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: Latest beta of Remind Me Where app


Hi Doug,

I am trying to both show off, and encourage, scripting within Window-Eyes.
I have hopes this might raise enough interest in WE scripting to cause other
commercial scripters to offer their products for WE.  Also, I'm quite aware
of the extremely competitive world of screen readers, and I frankly want to
give support to the one which I believe is both technically superior, and
more considerate of its customers.

I developed it inside of WE specifically to show what a quick and easy
development environment they provide with their scripting.  I believe it's a
significantly under-appreciated feature of WE.  Yes, it could exist outside
of a screen reader, but it would have taken me significantly longer to
develop, and I wouldn't have ended up learning WE scripting to the extent
that I have.

Chip



-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Lee [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 1:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Latest beta of Remind Me Where app

I am admittedly curious why you wish specifically to prevent your work
from being used in an environment outside of Window-Eyes. I have been
known to encourage translation of my scripting work into other
environments, for the improvement of usability of apps across screen
readers. If you're worried about use outside of a screen reader, this
would usually mean the app/script could exist without one, which
raises the question of why it is coded as part of a screen reader in
the first place.

I am, of course, not trying to attack or diminish your work, as I
admire what you have managed to do since the inception of Window-Eyes
scriptability. I'm just wondering why the restriction.

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 01:39:44PM -0400, Chip Orange wrote:
   Thanks Rod!


   BTW, to anyone who is a scripter: I've published this version as
   encrypted VBScript only to keep it from possibly being copied and used
   in other environments other than Window-Eyes.  It doesn't mean I'm not
   willing to allow others to see the source code, once you agree to not
   sharing it with anyone else and not using it in any environment other
   than Window-Eyes.  It's about 17000 lines at the moment, so if there's
   something you'd like to do in particular, I could also try to pick out
   just that snippet for you.


   The only technique I can think of which could be useful to others is
   working with web sites which return XML data.  I certainly had to teach
   myself quite a bit to do that.

   The other thing I've taught myself might be called advanced dialog use
   and design.  I hope to have the time to create a class session on that;
   I see now it would be more useful than the ones where I covered
   individual controls.



   Chip



   From: Rod Hutton [mailto:[email protected]]
   Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:44 AM
   To: [email protected]; [email protected]
   Subject: Re: Latest beta of Remind Me Where app


   Hi Chip,
   Good for you for slugging it out and offering such a wonderful app.  I
   encourage everyone to give it serious attention.
   Much thanks,
   Rod

   On 5/25/14 6:04 PM, Chip Orange wrote:

     Hi all,


     If anyone would like to try the latest beta of the Remind Me Where
     app, it can be downloaded from:

     [1]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11745142/Remind_Me_Where.wepm


     This is beta 0.3.0; it has the entire user interface significantly
     redesigned to be simpler and easier to use (thanks to very helpful
     feedback from beta testers).

     The options for getting directions has been improved, with more
     choices (hopefully also being simpler to use).  Documentation has
     been enhanced.


     Here's the description:


     Provides access to Google+ Places and directions (walking, driving,
     or using the transit system!), allowing you to make use of your
     current location or to specify locations from your database of
     points, or a street address, or a GPS receiver, or an IP address.


     This app lets you search for any type of place near you (searching
     can be based on quite flexible criteria), or just to see all the
     places which are near-by.

     The directions can be driving, walking, or public transit, and the
     from and to locations can be specified by address, pulled from your
     own points database, or pulled from the searching of Google places.

     Anyone lucky enough to live in a city with Google transit
     information should really get a lot out of the directions
     especially.


     I keep planning to add more for those with a tablet/laptop and a
     GPS, but right now, the app has changed towards being mainly used as
     a way to explore a city and to plan your routes.


     I would appreciate suggestions.


     (please don't forget to go into the options and enter your default
     location after installation).


     Thanks.


     Chip Orange

     [2][email protected]

References

   1. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11745142/Remind_Me_Where.wepm
   2. mailto:[email protected]

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Doug Lee, Senior Accessibility Programmer
SSB BART Group - Accessibility-on-Demand
mailto:[email protected]  http://www.ssbbartgroup.com
"While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done,
it was done." --Helen Keller


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