Hi,
Not that it is my period, and i dont want to interfer your disgussion, but i was thinking about the thin, narrow boning i used from Wissner for my red taffeta stays. This is only 4 mm. wide. Would that be something you could use for a crinoline cage? You would have to make many hoops for this, but it surely would give it flexibility.

Bjarne
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Farthingale's has "crin steel" a "Thread Covered Hoop Steel", I've
never tried it but it looks much like what is in original cage hoops,
don't know about the weight/stiffness.  I've wanted to try it for a
cage hoop or bustle if my budget ever allows.

http://www.farthingales.on.ca/hoopsteel.php

Text from their website:

Hoop Steel/Crin Steel/Tutu Steel

"We have several weights of hoop steel and you will likely be able to
find one to suit your purpose. One style is "thread covered", it can
be bent but not easily, comes in 3 widths and two colours; the
narrowest is known as tutu steel as it is used in tutus for partner
work. The second type of steel is "plastic coated" and this comes in
varying widths and weights. Both require tin snips to cut."

Greengerg and Hammer sells bons casing to fit 1/4" and 1/2 inch bones,
this could alaso be used to construct a cage hoop or bustle.  And it's
cotton.  I also use this for corset bone casings.

http://www.greenberg-hammer.com/store.asp?ItemID=1340

Katy

On 2/5/06, Sharon at Collierfam.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm not sure if it would work, but can you try using the steel in measuring tapes? If it's the right kind, you could maybe get it from the manufacturer.

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I'd do it the way Suzi suggests too.

I've never managed to find the "watch spring" that the originals were made
from, and am no longer sure if it's made in large quantities any more
(though if
anybody knows otherwise, do let me know!)

Though last time I used the narrowest flat steel I could find, and encased
it
in bone casing that I had, and ordinary cotton twill tape for the verticals,

and I hand stitched the hoops in at the intersections, through the casing
and
the tape. I also made the flounce at the bottom separately and attached it using buttons at regular intervals, so it could be removed for washing (it
was
for a wedding dress to later be used for re-enactment and so likely to be
dragged around a muddy field).

Would like to do the 'uber-authenitc' type, but it's one of the many things on my list that I want to make for fun (rather than for customers), that I
never seem to find the time for :-(

Debs




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