Dear penny, This bodice seems to be a fairly typical 1880's bodice. The buttons would be in the front. One sees this type of button quite often. The 3/4 sleeves are common in the 80's. One good way to tell 1860/70's from 1880/90's is the placement of the shoulder seam. in the 80/90s the shoulder seam is higher creating a narrower shoulder and more vertical look. In the 60/70's the shoulder line is dropped (to varying degrees) creating a wider, more curved, softer silhouette.
I have scanned pictures from Harper's Bazar 1883 and 1884: http://www.vintagevictorian.com/1884_nov29_hb_b.jpg http://www.vintagevictorian.com/1883_sep22_hb.jpg Didn't have time to find a low cut bodice but these show the general 80's shape pretty well, pointed waist, front buttons covered by trim, 3/4 sleeves. The fact that your bodice does not extend below the waist tells me it was most likely from a year when there was more fullness in the skirt just below the waist, a bigger bustle. Rather than from when the bustle was very narrow (like 1880) and the bodice often extended well below the waist. I have a page up for 1880's evening dress, but no day dress yet. it's brand new, no quite finished: http://www.vintagevictorian.com/costume_1880e.html Katy On 5/20/06, Penny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I saw earlier this week the thread "What's on your dressform" and didn't have time to answer. A lot has been on my dressforms during the past week. I have been photographing the fashion collection at Virginia Commonwealth University. I start teaching the fashion history class Monday at the university. I will be using some of the sturdier pieces in the classroom. The frial pieces are photographed to show the students projected from my laptop via a motorized screen. Some of the collection's costumes are misdated. Each archive box is like opening Christmas packages... you never know what you will find inside. A lot of fun! I found a bodice in a box named 1900. The bodice is clearly not from 1900, as were several other items in the box. I think it might be date from 1840s or 1860s. My class time frame is from 1860-1990. If this piece is from 1860, I can use these photos in my class. Would you all please look at some photgraphs of the bodice and let me know what time frame you think it is from. The center front and center back have a point at the waist. Front view: ( I didn't pad out the waistline curve to show the full point) www.costumegallery.com/help/P1010112.jpg Flat view of the inside of bodice: www.costumegallery.com/help/P1010111.jpg Flat view of the back of bodice: www.costumegallery.com/help/P1010107.jpg Thank you for your help. Penny Ladnier, Owner www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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