On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote:
> The term wheel of whalebone, could be both a coneshaped farthingale,
> and a drum shaped farthingale.
Hmm, I hadn't even thought about the cone-shaped ("Spanish") farthingales.
How late were the cone-shaped farthingales worn? I had the impression they
were disappearing in England by the 1580s or so. England tends to lag
behind France, and France had the roll first, but I don't have any idea
about the rest of Europe. Of course the authors in this case were English
anyway.
> In Denmark i have read old describtions, in german, (courtpeople spoke
> german in Denmark) and the word is utstopfte magen wich can be
> translated to stuffed stomachers, this could maybe be a refference to
> a piececot belly, and has nothing to do with a farthingale, its very
> strange. The spanish word vertugale is used in Denmark.
I have absolutely no German, so if you do find something on this line, I'd
love to know! Drea probably would be interested, too, and she's done a lot
of work with German Renaissance documents. I'll pass this on to her.
--Robin
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