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On Behalf Of Ruth Anne Baumgartner
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 10:50 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost]Colour names, was Need Help

"Ultramarine," like many other colors (magenta, Prussian blue,  
"midnight blue," apricot, burnt sienna, ocher, even lavender), was  
described definitively and permanently for me in my youth by my big  
set of Crayola crayons. And Patty's description definitely squares  
with Crayola.
--Ruth Anne Baumgartner
scholar gypsy and amateur costumer
p.s. The Crayola color "flesh" has been long since re-named. Lucky,  
that--I didn't know ANYBODY who was that color, but clearly it did  
imply that dark-skinned people were an aberration as far as the color  
of their "flesh" was concerned, and I'm glad that notion has been  
obliterated! Significantly, though, I never can remember what the new  
name is....


peach

Patty


On Jan 26, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Rickard, Patty wrote:

> American here - ultramarine was strong darkish slightly greenish blue
> for me -when I was a girl - maybe a generational, not national, thing?
>
> Patty
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Suzi Clarke
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 4:22 AM
> To: Historical Costume
> Subject: Re: [h-cost]Colour names, was Need Help
>
> At 09:06 26/01/2007, you wrote:
>
>
>> Kate Bunting
>> Librarian and 17th century reenactor
>>
>>>>> Lavolta Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 26/01/2007 02:58 >>> wrote:
>>> Bear in mind that the meanings of many Victorian color names changed
>>> from fashion season to fashion season; and also, different, trendier
>>> names were often applied to the same old colors.
>>
>> I find this is still true. Here in the UK "aubergine" is usually a  
>> dark
>> purple (the colour of what you Americans call eggplants), but in a
>> recent catalogue I've seen the name applied to a lighter
>> pinkish-purple.
>
> I was buying cotton thread yesterday, and the "mauve/purple/paler
> aubergine" thread was called "Ultramarine." Now when I was a girl, as
> they say, ultramarine was a strong darkish bright blue. My American
> companion said that the purple-ish colour was a colour/name
> association she knew - I didn't!
>
> Suzi
>
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