Yes, I agree. I have had so much grief with men's outfits -
pattern companies always make the armsyces too loose, and so
I've had to re-draft most of the sleeves for our band's
outfits. Then, the men ask why I'm making the sleeves so
tight - today's modern styles make it hard for them to
realise they will have more movement. Because we wear these
outfits for dancing we need to raise our arms above the
head. At least for Elizabethan I can make the sleeves
detachable!

Cheers, Aylwen

 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carmen Beaudry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [h-cost] New Simplicity Elizabethan pattern - a
question
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 19:48:35 -0700

> From: "Sharon Collier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> <>Just my 2 cents worth, but when I looked at the pic on
> the front of the pattern, the armseye seems too large. If
> you look at the pics of Helen Mirren in these gowns, the
> sleeves fit tightly up under the arm. Gives a more period
> look, but maybe is not so comfortable or easy to fit for
> today's folks.
> 
> This is counter-intuitive, but the more fitted the armseye
> , the more  movement you have, as long as the sleeve head
> rests on the point of the  shoulder.  I make Elizabethan
> and Cavalier doublets and bodices for rapier  combat and
> making the armseye too big makes the whole garment pull
> with  movement and actually restricts the arm.  However,
> it has to be fitted to  the individual, not made as an
> approximation or average, which is why most  modern
> clothes are so loose.
> 
> Melusine

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