The Victorian era begins with her reign in 1937. To my understanding crine
or horse hair tape was uses in the sleeves and petticoats during the 1830s
but around 1840s or fifties is when the hoops skirts start appearing. You
Victorian/Civil War gowns w/hoops are 1861. So if 1830 is the choosen era,
then it is petticoats with crine.

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Oh, absolutely.  It's just interesting to trace the evolution because the
crinolines that have the open fronts are so much more comfortable / wearable
/ danceable than the earlier hooped petticoat style.

LuAnn
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  In a message dated 10/6/2007 1:40:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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  Actually, a lot of the maneuverability issues depend on whether you're
using
  a modern substitute hoop that has circular hoops all the way around
  suspended in a drawstring petticoat, or if you have a more accurate cage
crinoline
  which a) shifts the weight of the skirts to the back and b) more
importantly,
  has a "break" in the hooping along the front.  That "gap"  (for lack of a
  better word) is the key to maneuverability in a hoop--you can  sit, you
can dance,
  you can do LOTS of things when the gap is there that  become cumbersome
when
  it isn't.



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  True.
  But still, even though cage crinolines were numerous, there are also
  examples of hooped petticoats, and hoops start out being circular before
moving  into
  that trained, elongated form you see near the end of the period. So there
  was still a whole lotta waltzing going on in circular, hooped petticoats.
Of
  course no one said it was easy!



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