the Urumchi/Taklamakan textiles are dated "1900 BC to 200 AD" (Wiki article on "Tarim Mummies"); and that article notes that EJW Barber compared the textiles to those at the Halstatt salt mines, which are dated "8th to 6th centuries BC (European Early Iron Age)" in the Wiki Halstatt article. (I had to fall back to Wiki because I have read her books, but not recently) (egad, no Wiki article on HER, just lots of ref.s TO her in textile history articles)
yes, your ... associate certainly doesn't know as much as she thinks she does about textile history, if she's never read Elizabeth Barber!!! The books are: The Mummies of Urumchi; Women's Work: The First 20,000 Years: Women, Cloth, and Society in Early Times; and Prehistoric Textiles: The Development of Cloth in the Neolithic and Bronze Ages with Special Reference to the Aegean chimene On Jul 1, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Joan Jurancich wrote: > At 02:36 PM 6/29/2012, you wrote: >> Would love a source if you have one. I have someone that has drummed into >> folks that patterned cloth only goes as far back as the Middle Ages. The >> Iron Age article will dumbstrike her and further back will blow her away. :) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> Actually, patterned cloth is much older than the Iron-Age. >> >> Joan Jurancich >> joa...@surewest.net > > I have two books in my collection, both by Elizabeth Wayland Barber. The > first is "Prehistoric Textiles: The development of cloth in the Neolithic and > Bronze Ages, with special reference to the Aegean"; the second is "The > Mummies of Urumchi". The former has some color pictures of some of the few > surviving textiles that have discernable color patterns (very few textiles > survive in Europe except for those in the lake bottoms of Switzerland (linen) > and the bog textiles in Northern Europe (woolens), both of which have any > colors totally masked by the preservation conditions; one exception is in the > salt mines). There are some Egyptian textiles preserved by the dryness of the > environment that show some colors. In the latter book, again it is extreme > dryness that preserves woolen textiles in all their colorful glory. > > It's interesting that someone has such a jaundiced view of textile history. > People have been weaving colorful patterned textiles for at least the past > 4,000 years. And, yes, I am an early textile technology geek. 8-) In fact, in > late October I am taking a 3-day workshop on spinning and weaving for > historic textile reproduction/re-creation. > > Joan Jurancich > joa...@surewest.net > > _______________________________________________ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _______________________________________________ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
