I'll have a look at my fastcgi settings, maybe php is responsible for this.
It's an unusual construction I have there, but I have been sick of changing
ownership after ftp-ing and such (Joomla also has problems with that).
Therefore my complete server runs with the fastcgi/suexec environment, and
from time to time I run into problems, but I have the advantage that ftp
user and webserver are the same...

2008/8/28 rick c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
> The Habari silo tries to create the 'files' directory and the '.deriv'
> directory with 766 permission. Often, for reasons I don't know, it is
> not able to do so.
>
> I'm glad you found the problem. Thanks for sticking with it.
>
> Rick
>
> On Aug 28, 4:22 am, "Lars Oeschey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > doh... I found it (not giving up helps ;))
> >
> > The folder "files" itself had permission of 700. Set it to 755 and
> > everythings fine. Does this happen at installation? All other folders the
> > same level had 755...
> >
> > 2008/8/27 Lars Oeschey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > Another test: I tried to insert a picture into an article, and
> previewed
> > > it. The picture wouldn't show, and I have the same error message about
> > > htaccess in the error_log. To me it seems, as if the Silo would try to
> > > access images with non-relative paths?
> >
> > > 2008/8/27 Lars Oeschey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > > hm, I tried putting a empty .htaccess file in
> > >> /var/www/web13/web/user/files/.htaccess, still no go... what I find a
> bit
> > >> suspicious, is the path that is used here... it's the direct file
> system
> > >> path, while everything else is opened by relative paths, i.e. GET
> > >> /system/themes/charcoal/images/main_bg.png
> >
> > >> how can that absolute path get there? (and this *could* be the
> problem,
> > >> since the php process running with suexec can't access the / dir)
> >
> > >> 2008/8/26 Lars Oeschey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > >> Strange... I tried that, and set the directory containing the image
> and
> > >>> the .deriv directory to 755, and still can't see them. I found this
> in the
> > >>> error_log:
> >
> > >>> [Tue Aug 26 14:09:04 2008] [crit] [client 143.164.102.14]
> (13)Permission
> > >>> denied: /var/www/web13/web/user/files/.htaccess pcfg_openfile: unable
> to
> > >>> check htaccess file, ensure it is readable, referer:
> > >>>http://blog.oeschey.de/admin/publish?slug=automower-sp-sse-teil-1
> >
> > >>> why does it expect a .htaccess file *there*?
> >
> > >>> Lars
> > >>> (btw, please excuse my bad quoting, I subscribed with my gmail
> account
> > >>> and have to use webmail)
> >
> > >>> 2008/8/26 rick c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > >>>> The image and thumbnail files should be okay with 644. However, I've
> > >>>> found I've had to change the directory permissions to 755 to be able
> > >>>> to display the thumbnails.
> >
> > >>>> Rick
> >
> > >>>> On Aug 26, 4:21 am, "Lars Oeschey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>> > So, I checked now via ftp. There is a .deriv directory, and it
> > >>>> contains
> > >>>> > thumbnails, though I can't see them in the backend. Initially all
> > >>>> files were
> > >>>> > created with 600 rights, which normally should be ok, since I run
> a
> > >>>> > suexec/phpcgi system (i.e. apache runs as the same user as the ftp
> > >>>> user,
> > >>>> > which is the owner of the files). To check that, I changed all
> rights
> > >>>> > (image, .deriv directory and thumbnail file) up until I had 644.
> Still
> > >>>> no
> > >>>> > go, no thumbs visible. I can't check ownership right now (no ssh
> from
> > >>>> here),
> > >>>> > but I'd bet that it's ok (I run all my joomla and other sites with
> > >>>> that
> > >>>> > suexec system). Any other ideas?
> >
> > >>>> > Lars
> >
> > >>>> > 2008/8/26 Lars Oeschey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > >>>> > > ok, then I can guess now why there aren't any thumbnails,
> because I
> > >>>> found
> > >>>> > > the directory creation function *after* uploading (hence the
> files
> > >>>> are in
> > >>>> > > root dir)... I'll check that with ftp later
> >
> > >>>> > > thanks, Lars
> >
> > >>>> > > 2008/8/26 rick c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > >>>> > >> No, there isn't anything more advanced right now, Lars.
> >
> > >>>> > >> You should be getting thumbnail views of your images, When you
> > >>>> upload
> > >>>> > >> an image, if it doesn't already exist, the Habari silo attempts
> to
> > >>>> > >> create a .deriv directory as a subdirectory of the directory
> where
> > >>>> you
> > >>>> > >> uploaded the image and create a thumbnail there that is shown
> in
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> > >> silo. In some cases, the .deriv directory either can't be
> created
> > >>>> or
> > >>>> > >> is created with insufficient permissions for Habari to use it.
> If
> > >>>> > >> the .deriv directory isn't created, create it by hand. Set the
> > >>>> > >> permissions on it to 755 or 775, whichever works to allow the
> > >>>> > >> thumbnails to be created and displayed. You should then be able
> to
> > >>>> get
> > >>>> > >> thumbnail images that can be used to insert the image into your
> > >>>> post
> > >>>> > >> at the current cursor position by doubleclicking the thumbnail.
> >
> > >>>> > >> Regarding the delete functionality, the silo has the hooks for
> it,
> > >>>> but
> > >>>> > >> the functionality hasn't yet been enabled. I hope this helps.
> >
> > >>>> > >> Rick
> >
> > >>>> > >> On Aug 25, 7:45 pm, Lars_Oeschey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>>> > >> > Hi,
> >
> > >>>> > >> > I found out how to upload images to habari. There's also a
> > >>>> possibility
> > >>>> > >> > to create directories. What I'm missing though, is a
> thumbnails
> > >>>> view
> > >>>> > >> > of the images (am I missing something here?) and a
> possibility to
> > >>>> > >> > delete. Is there maybe a plugin that has a more advanced
> media
> > >>>> > >> > management?
> >
> > >>>> > >> > Lars
> >
>

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