Sounds like a good idea. But, what advantage other than reducing redundant information would this provide? After all, CodeIssue, FileMetric, Coverage, UnitTest, and Dependency data that all have much more redundant information. On the other hand, I'm all for it if the exploration becomes easier or if some way linking Issue data with other data becomes easier. I think that is the key.

Maybe we can make the Jira sensor smarter? For example, maybe we have to give in and actually hook into the database to send 'Age' data instead of trying to calculate it on the server side.

CSDL's use of the Jira-Subversion sensor and the process that we are following opens up a lot of possibilities for linking ActiveTime, Commits, and Issues. One of the problems that I see with the event based Issue SDT is that a commit for an Issue (specified with the [HACK-1] convention) is not represented in the XML issue file. Thus, our Jira sensor would not know to send Issue data and this link might not be able to be made easily.

thanks, aaron

At 04:04 PM 1/27/2006, you wrote:
--On Friday, January 27, 2006 2:19 AM -1000 "(Cedric) Qin ZHANG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The sensor is deployed and the first batch of data are sent. If you want a distraction from your coding activity, please log into your Hackystat account and check today's raw
issue data and let me if there is any error.

Good work, Cedric!

When I get distracted, I like to send long emails, so here goes. :-)

First, I note that we need to evolve the Issue SDT to use pMaps instead of the "data" field. This doesn't need to be done immediately. Maybe I should first write the SDT chapter and then see if someone can do this evolution by reading the documentation.

Second, the data (pMap) field should include something like a 'fixRelease' field; that will make the telemetry much more useful.

The last issue in my mind is the big one: snapshots vs. incremental data. As everyone knows, I have been requiring a "snapshot" approach to the Jira sensor in which it sends a summary of all relevent Jira issues every day. This produces a tremendous amount of redundant information and is not scalable as the issue repository grows. The reason for my insanity is as follows:

- The Jira issue sensor was "volatile" code. Doing a snapshot was a simple way to improve the reliability of the data.

- Incremental issue data is inherently vulnerable. If your sensor drops out for a day or more, you've permanently lost data. Furthermore, how do you distinguish between a busted sensor and simply no Jira issue activity?

- Snapshot data makes the higher level analyses easier to implement. Because we were still actively exploring what use to make of this data, I wanted to make that exploration process easier.

Eventually, of course, we have to move to a more incremental approach. Here's my proposal on how to do it safely:

(1) Create a new SDT called "IssueSnapshot". What this SDT provides is summary statistics about the state of the repository---how many issues were open, closed, etc. We have to do more investigation to decide what we need to send for this thing, but it will be a very small amount of data compared to the current snapshot. The IssueSnapshot is sent every day by the sensor.

(2) Use the current Issue SDT to send only changes that occurred during the current day. If there is no Issue activity, then no Issue data is sent.

This approach solves two out of three problems:
(1) The amount of data sent to Hackystat becomes scalable, and the redundant daily issue data is eliminated. (2) We can now distinguish between "no data" and "sensor is busted". When there is "no data", there is still an IssueSnapshot. When there is no IssueSnapshot, then "sensor is busted".

The approach does not solve what to do when the sensor busts and we miss data. I guess in that case we simply have to manually resend the data from the days that were missed.

Thoughts welcomed.

Cheers,
Philip

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