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Doug Cutting commented on HADOOP-1134:
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> Yes, but in each of those 100 real data corruptions data can be salvaged by 
> switching to a valid instance of the block

Assuming the corruption happened after replication.

> Data corruption before data reaches the Datanode would occur either in RAM or 
> during network transmission, the likelihood of this happening is orders of 
> magnitude lower than 1 out of 3 replicas on disk becoming corrupt.

That's not the universal experience.  Many if not most of the checksum errors 
I've heard of traced back to memory errors.  Someone recently reported a 
non-reproducible checksum error from the InMemoryFileSystem, didn't they?

> Block level CRCs in HDFS
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>
>                 Key: HADOOP-1134
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HADOOP-1134
>             Project: Hadoop
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: dfs
>            Reporter: Raghu Angadi
>         Assigned To: Raghu Angadi
>
> Currently CRCs are handled at FileSystem level and are transparent to core 
> HDFS. See recent improvement HADOOP-928 ( that can add checksums to a given 
> filesystem ) regd more about it. Though this served us well there a few 
> disadvantages :
> 1) This doubles namespace in HDFS ( or other filesystem implementations ). In 
> many cases, it nearly doubles the number of blocks. Taking namenode out of 
> CRCs would nearly double namespace performance both in terms of CPU and 
> memory.
> 2) Since CRCs are transparent to HDFS, it can not actively detect corrupted 
> blocks. With block level CRCs, Datanode can periodically verify the checksums 
> and report corruptions to namnode such that name replicas can be created.
> We propose to have CRCs maintained for all HDFS data in much the same way as 
> in GFS. I will update the jira with detailed requirements and design. This 
> will include same guarantees provided by current implementation and will 
> include a upgrade of current data.
>  

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