If either of you have suggestions for how to make the error messages 
better, I'm all ears. I've tried to make them as new-user-friendly as 
possible, but since I'm so familiar with Haml I fear I don't always succeed.

Tze Yang Ng wrote:
> 1.  Is there something that I am doing wrong or could do better?  It
> definitely took me a lot longer than 20 minutes (more like hours).  I
> am not that good with HTML to begin with.  Is that a factor?
>
> ME: doing the rewriting bit by bit may help ... write small fragments
> before u proceed further, so that u can discover mistakes early ...
> less headache.
>
> 2.  I counted the number of non-white lines in both ERB (45) and Haml
> (30) implementations.  Haml code is approx. two-third of the ERB
> code.  May be this adds up over the long haul?
>
> ME: no comments, i find haml syntax more concise and requires less
> typing, and these are factors that i'm hooked to haml (after only 2
> weeks of usage)
>
> 3.  I can definitely see that the code is better to look at since it
> is indented so nicely and there is "less" noise compared to XHTML
> verbocity.  Is that what you all like over a period of time?
>
> ME: I like the well structured generated HTML. even though i can use
> firebug to inspect the html source, occasionally i still prefer a
> quick ctrl-U in firefox.
>
> 4.  The error messages will take time getting used to.
>
> ME: same here.
>
> Also, haml forces me to write cleaner template in the sense that since
> multiline fragment like the following is invalid:
>
> - select :role, :label => label, :collection => @collection,
> - :name => "groups[role]", :prompt => 'none',
> - :selected => selected?
>
> and i like to keep me code within a certain page width, i'm forced to
> write helpers and use them like:
>
> - select_group_role( ... )
>
> Cheers !!
>
> ==
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Bharat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Will do from now onwards.  By the way, I managed to debug the haml
>> script and it is working fine now.  I will not bother to post it
>> unless someone wants to see it.  Thanks everyone for the
>> encouragement.  My short intro to haml has actually prompted more
>> questions:
>>
>> 1.  Is there something that I am doing wrong or could do better?  It
>> definitely took me a lot longer than 20 minutes (more like hours).  I
>> am not that good with HTML to begin with.  Is that a factor?
>>
>> 2.  I counted the number of non-white lines in both ERB (45) and Haml
>> (30) implementations.  Haml code is approx. two-third of the ERB
>> code.  May be this adds up over the long haul?
>>
>> 3.  I can definitely see that the code is better to look at since it
>> is indented so nicely and there is "less" noise compared to XHTML
>> verbocity.  Is that what you all like over a period of time?
>>
>> 4.  The error messages will take time getting used to.
>>
>> Please comment on my observations.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Bharat
>>
>>     
>
>
>
>   


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