2009/8/7 Andy Smith <a...@strugglers.net>: > Hi Pavithran, > > On Thu, Aug 06, 2009 at 06:24:07PM +0100, pavithran wrote: >> Professional or not I believe this is *linux* users group . And M$ ( >> not Microsoft) has an awesome reputation of patent allegations against >> the Free software movement . And as Linux users we ( if we have enough >> free software spirit ) need not give it its due by calling it >> respectfully with its full name . > > Again you generalise massively; are you really saying that you feel > you speak for all Linux users with the above (even just all of the > ones with enough "free software spirit")? No I can't speak for Hampshire LUG because I don't feel at home in Hampshire or even it's LUG ( sob sob ) My Home LUG's are Khammam glug,ILUG-HYD,ILUGC,ILUG-B ( India based LUG's ) And foss community in India is quite united in its views . Yes I am hitting directly at the foss community of United kingdom but these are my personal views on observing Hantslug & GreaterLondon LUG for approx 1 year .
*Most of the linux users are really talented * Most of the users don't care for the difference between "open source " and " free" * Most of them are enterprise /business/formal people. Having said that . the GLUG's in India ( yeah we renamed most of them to GLUG ) are more friendly and more united in it's views and actually care more about FOSS philosophy than actual code ( which is changing ) >Do you feel it is a > requirement of having enough "free software spirit" to call > Microsoft names? Ofcourse not but commenting a LUG member who has used the words "M$" is definitely not a requirement of a LUG !! > I do have a lot of respect for many things that Microsoft have > achieved. Yeah I accept MS dos was a copied version , Windows 3 copied from mac .. etc I also think that NT is a great stable product and Xp the shiny desktop simply works out of the box ( thanks to the great hardware vendors who sat down and written code for windows drivers ) >I think they've also done some very bad things. Some is an *under* statement :( >I doubt > I am alone in this view, I dont think so !! >and I am afraid that it is the risk of > being lumped in with your sort of sentiment that leads me to refrain > from labelling myself as part of the free software movement, however > much "free software spirit" I may have. For Your Information Free software Movement *never* calls companies with names. I don't represent FSF or any such organisations , why tie me with the movement ? ( which I think is doing great work ) > I happen to think it is not > in any way about calling companies stupid names. Ofcourse not . > You don't have to agree with what someone does or thinks to have > respect for them. To continually call them names just because you > don't agree with them is I think basically just childish. Since I > don't agree with you are you suggesting that I should make some > humourous mis-spelling of your name and then only call you by that > on this list? Yeah I am childish . and no I don't work under any one and say "Yes boss or good morning sir " I am quite informal . I definitely don't mind you/anyone( in this list ) calling me pvi or povi or anything weird ( just make sure that I could hear and recognise that you are calling me ) > In my opinion any serious message you have is immediately cheapened > by referring to this company as "M$" or "Micro$oft". I am afraid you might be right because many people tend to be formal in their approach . But I think a LUG is an informal discussion group . Yes we do discuss serious issues and definitely I hope( small ray of hope ) we wont ( my thinking ) get serious on How we call "Microsoft " Regards, Pavithran -- pavithran sakamuri www.pavithran.org -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --------------------------------------------------------------