Thanks Willy, it makes perfect sense.

I'll sponsor other projects! :)

Cheers,
~Nico

On 08 Oct, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 11:20:25AM +0200, Sebastian Fohler wrote:
> > What about a Patron account.
> > 
> > https://www.patreon.com/europe
> > 
> > Cause I already asked multiple times for some other means of contribution as
> > well.
> > That would help a great deal, makeing it easier.
> > I'm supporting multiple Opensource projects already this way.
> > Would that be an option?
> 
> Well, to make things clear, first let me remind that the paypal account
> is my personal account, which I have added a link to from the main page
> upon request by several people willing to donate many years ago. This
> has been helpful in the early days, allowing me buy some hardware to
> experiment during week-ends (such as the 10G lab), and to significantly
> improve the code's portability and efficiency on small systems. It used
> to serve to contribute to the hosting costs as well.
> 
> Since then the project has considerably evolved, being backed by a company
> offering a much larger full-time development team. And users are well
> aware of this because nowadays donations are extremely rare (in the range
> of tens of dollars a year). But at the same time nowadays I do not need
> them at all anymore, so I'm perfectly fine with replacing the link with
> anything else. I've only been keeping it because I know that if I remove
> it, the question will come back again a few months later.
> 
> The only thing is that I am *not* going to deal with yet another task
> that adds more burden, so if someone is willing to set up any account
> via $whatever company, they will have to handle it and pass me the
> replacement link. At least the paypal link doesn't cause me any extra
> work beyond replying "thank you" to donators once in a while. Just be
> aware that since donations are rare, I'm not at all convinced it will
> be worth doing anything particular. And at some point a solution will
> have to be found to spend the eventual money that would land there,
> so someone will have to handle this, and again it's certainly not me.
> 
> My personal suggestion would be that those who want to give a few
> dollars better keep their money that they certainly need more than
> most developers or contributors do, because due to the project's
> nature, contributors generaly work in IT at levels at which, based on
> the high quality of their contributions, they're not expected to be
> starving at all (or if they do they definitely need to switch jobs as
> their skills are quite sought)! If anyone is ever willing to spend a
> large amount, like thousands of dollars, better hire someone to develop
> some useful desired features, it will be an excellent contribution to
> the project! Another great option is to contact your favorite distro's
> package maintainer and propose your donation there, because distro
> maintainers have been doing this thankless job for many years now and
> deserve some recognition as well. For anything else, offering time to
> look into bugs, testing -dev releases, improving the doc, contributing
> to the wiki etc is extremely valuable and helps all contributors at
> once.
> 
> As you see, there are still plenty of options which do not require
> managing any new account anywhere.
> 
> Thanks for your support :-)
> Willy
> 

-- 
~Nico

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