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To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to hard-core-dx-requ...@hard-core-dx.com You can reach the person managing the list at hard-core-dx-ow...@hard-core-dx.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Hard-Core-DX digest..." ________________________________________ Hard-Core-DX mailing list Hard-Core-DX@hard-core-dx.com http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ _______________________________________________ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt Today's Topics: 1. Radio Verdad, extended program and good signal here in Reinante right now, 0635 (Manuel M?ndez) 2. Voice of Korea on 15245.0 and 15245.2 kHz, September 23 (Ivo Observer) 3. Frequency changes of BBC World Sce via ENC-DMS A'Seela (Ivo Observer) 4. FW: [abdx.org] DX TIP: KTNN 660 Off Air (wienbob) 5. LRA 36 news (Manuel M?ndez) 6. Re: [WOR] Frequency changes of BBC World Sce via ENC-DMS A'Seela (Wolfgang Bueschel) 7. Re: [irca] DX TIP: KTNN 660 Off Air (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) 8. Re: [nrc-am] Re: [irca] DX TIP: KTNN 660 Off Air (Bob Galerstein) 9. KBGG 1700 Des Moines OFF AIR (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) 10. Glenn Hauser logs September 24-25, 2020 (Glenn Hauser) 11. New AM DX Log From Laramie, WY: KGSV 660! (Paul B. Walker, Jr.) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:43:13 +0000 From: Manuel M?ndez <manuelmend...@gmail.com> To: "DX WOR groups" <w...@groups.io> Subject: [HCDX] Radio Verdad, extended program and good signal here in Reinante right now, 0635 Message-ID: <em986588fb-9469-47d9-8a12-feec3673f580@laptop-a6upglvr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Manuel M?ndez Lugo, Spain Log in Reinante Tecsun S-8800, cable antenna, 8 meters GUATEMALA, 4055, Radio Verdad, Chiquimula, Guatemala, 0635, 24-09, English, religious comments. 35433. Very good propagation for Radio Verdad the last days. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:53:57 +0000 From: Ivo Observer <ivo.obser...@gmail.com> To: frequenc...@bnr.bg Subject: [HCDX] Voice of Korea on 15245.0 and 15245.2 kHz, September 23 Message-ID: <CANVtGkADpfWsZbChPEmDOMmQHyQKoZBpT4wTkw3=agbq_ow...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" KOREA D.P.R. Voice of Korea on 15245.0 and 15245.2 kHz, September 23 0700-0857 on 15245.0 KUJ 200 kW / 325 deg to EaEu dead air + test tone 0700-0857 on 15245.2 KUJ 200 kW / 325 deg to EaEu Russian, good signal 0700-0857 on 13760.0 KUJ 200 kW / 325 deg to EaEu Russian - not on air -- 73! Ivo Ivanov More information on the shortwave listening hobby, please visit to http://swldxbulgaria.blogspot.com QTH-1: Patreshko, Bulgaria Receiver: Afedri SDR Software: SDR-Console v2.3(using remote connection) Antennas: various Inverted V and beverage antennas. QTH-2: Sofia OK2, Bulgaria Receiver: Sony ICF-2001D Antenna: 30 m. long wire <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 07:54:41 +0000 From: Ivo Observer <ivo.obser...@gmail.com> To: frequenc...@bnr.bg Subject: [HCDX] Frequency changes of BBC World Sce via ENC-DMS A'Seela Message-ID: <canvtgkcchtgmtyghvfouesqutddyfxhxnvjedtxrhrut9nj...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" *U.K.(non) Frequency changes of BBC World Sce via ENC-DMS A'Seela* 0000-0100 NF 6155 SLA 250 kW / 063 deg to SoAs English, ex 5970 0100-0200 NF 5945 SLA 250 kW / 063 deg to SoAs English, ex 5970 1200-1300 NF 11995 SLA 250 kW / 063 deg to SoAs English, ex 12065 -- 73! Ivo Ivanov More information on the shortwave listening hobby, please visit to http://swldxbulgaria.blogspot.com QTH-1: Patreshko, Bulgaria Receiver: Afedri SDR Software: SDR-Console v2.3(using remote connection) Antennas: various Inverted V and beverage antennas. QTH-2: Sofia OK2, Bulgaria Receiver: Sony ICF-2001D Antenna: 30 m. long wire <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 06:09:59 -0600 From: wienbob <wien...@aol.com> To: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>, NRC-AM <nrc...@googlegroups.com>, ABDX List <a...@abdx.org>, IRCA List <i...@groups.io>, Hard-Core-DX <Hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com> Cc: wien...@aol.com, Mike Sanburn <mikesanb...@hotmail.com>, Mike Sanburn <mikesanb...@yahoo.com> Subject: [HCDX] FW: [abdx.org] DX TIP: KTNN 660 Off Air Message-ID: <20200924120724.b7d3b370...@texas.kotalampi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Off all night thu morning, had Calgary in here fairly good for new one, at 1 am mdy had abc affiliate with cdt timecheck looping ne, had abc sports, was this keyz or ksky?, and loud mexican to south with constant time checks in mdt zone, no Id , had bruno mars mx and later morectradutional mexican mx.? May have had kgsv in there also but too much iboc splash from 670 colorado kltt... still off at 6 am mdt...Bob WienAlbuquerque nmSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. -------- Original message --------From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> Date: 9/23/20 7:45 PM (GMT-07:00) To: ABDX List <a...@abdx.org>, Hard-Core-DX <Hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>, IRCA List <i...@groups.io>, NRC-AM <nrc...@googlegroups.com> Subject: [abdx.org] DX TIP: KTNN 660 Off Air David Wilson near Salt Lake city notes no KTNN signal at his location and none here in Laramie WY either, where it?s usually dominant? It?s a mush of signals here with CHQR leading the pack. david notes KGSV Oildale, CA With Punjab/Hindi music?Paul? ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 13:57:46 +0000 From: Manuel M?ndez <manuelmend...@gmail.com> To: "Noticias DX" <noticia...@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [HCDX] LRA 36 news Message-ID: <em7867ff22-e886-47e8-b9f9-7dbaf4db94f2@laptop-a6upglvr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Manuel M?ndez Lugo, Spain About the Saturday 26th September LRA 36 transmission, I received a Whattsapp voice message from the station operator Damian Tranamil: The rhombic antenna of the station is damaged, Damian managed to repair it provisionally the past Wednesday, when he returned to Base Esperanza from Chilean Base O?Higgins, where he is doing rescue exercises with Chilean staff of Chilean Base. In this way the regular program "Coraz?n Ant?rtico" could be issued. Saturday, Damian will try to put on air all the canned "Coraz?n Ant?rtico" programs that he could not broadcast the previous Wednesdays due to the broken antenna and his stay on Base O'Higgins, these programs are in Spanish. He will also broadcast a half-hour program in German that Adrian Korol, RAE director sent to him. No program in English is planned. Transmission will be if the weather conditions allow it. After Saturday, Damian will return to the Chilean base to continue the exercises and in October he will try to repair definitely the damage antenna. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:22:59 +0200 From: "Wolfgang Bueschel" <dg1...@t-online.de> To: "hcdx" <hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>, <w...@groups.io> Subject: Re: [HCDX] [WOR] Frequency changes of BBC World Sce via ENC-DMS A'Seela Message-ID: <6C95E483E0D74C2D8E35D2E7D28A4A18@HNPC1> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original rather cat and mouse - BBC vv CHN mainland jamming authority. see * star marked at Eibi Nagoya database list, China mainland jamming, and PBS Gannan CNR 11 from Hezuo - too on that channel. But n e v e r any Birmingham US signal give stress at 1 UTC in Tibet China in 49 mb. 73 wb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn Hauser via groups.io" <wghauser=yahoo....@groups.io> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2020 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [WOR] Frequency changes of BBC World Sce via ENC-DMS A'Seela > 5970 might have had an increasing QRM problem from WEWN Spanish. Glenn > > On Thursday, September 24, 2020, 05:37:47 PM GMT+1, Andy Reid > <awradi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ivo, do you know why these changes were made? ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 16:41:11 -0600 From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> To: i...@groups.io Cc: ABDX List <a...@abdx.org>, Hard-Core-DX <Hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>, NRC-AM <nrc...@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [HCDX] [irca] DX TIP: KTNN 660 Off Air Message-ID: <cadc3yg1bfzav8v5t4w0cxcp5+0kb+pbhbtxyechoaas7ent...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" A fairly reliable source on Facebook, a broadcast engineer has commented in a Facebook group that a new transmitter is on order for KTNN. That seems to suggest the current transmitter is not worth fixing and KTNN will be off for another week or two Paul On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 10:14 PM Paul B. Walker, Jr. via groups.io <walkerbroadcasting=gmail....@groups.io> wrote: > David Wilson near Salt Lake city notes no KTNN signal at his location and > none here in Laramie WY either, where it?s usually dominant > > It?s a mush of signals here with CHQR leading the pack. david notes KGSV > Oildale, CA With Punjab/Hindi music > > Paul > _._,_._,_ > ------------------------------ > Groups.io Links: > > You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#11996) <https://groups.io/g/IRCA/message/11996> | Reply > To Group > <i...@groups.io?subject=Re:%20%5Birca%5D%20DX%20TIP%3A%20KTNN%20660%20Off%20Air> > | Reply To Sender > <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com?subject=Private:%20Re:%20%5Birca%5D%20DX%20TIP%3A%20KTNN%20660%20Off%20Air> > | Mute This Topic <https://groups.io/mt/77007089/527171> | New Topic > <https://groups.io/g/IRCA/post> > ------------------------------ > Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the > original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the > IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officers > > For more information: http://www.ircaonline.org > ------------------------------ > Your Subscription <https://groups.io/g/IRCA/editsub/527171> | Contact > Group Owner <irca+ow...@groups.io> | Unsubscribe > <https://groups.io/g/IRCA/leave/3828619/976508909/xyzzy> [ > walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com] > _._,_._,_ > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 19:02:12 -0400 From: Bob Galerstein <bobg...@optonline.net> To: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>, i...@groups.io Cc: ABDX List <a...@abdx.org>, Hard-Core-DX <Hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>, NRC-AM <nrc...@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [HCDX] [nrc-am] Re: [irca] DX TIP: KTNN 660 Off Air Message-ID: <f7.2f.21107.9752d...@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Half serious, maybe a DX Test to check out the new transmitter....Bob Galerstein W2VGDMorris Plains, NJ?Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message --------From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> Date: 9/24/20 6:41 PM (GMT-05:00) To: i...@groups.io Cc: ABDX List <a...@abdx.org>, Hard-Core-DX <Hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>, NRC-AM <nrc...@googlegroups.com> Subject: [nrc-am] Re: [irca] DX TIP: KTNN 660 Off Air A fairly reliable source on Facebook, a broadcast engineer has commented in a Facebook group that a new transmitter is on order for KTNN.That seems to suggest the current transmitter is not worth fixing and KTNN will be off for another week or two?Paul?On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 10:14 PM Paul B. Walker, Jr. via groups.io <walkerbroadcasting=gmail....@groups.io> wrote:David Wilson near Salt Lake city notes no KTNN signal at his location and none here in Laramie WY either, where it?s usually dominant?It?s a mush of signals here with CHQR leading the pack. david notes KGSV Oildale, CA With Punjab/Hindi music?Paul? _._,_._,_ Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#11996) | Reply To Group | Reply To Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic Opinions expressed in messages on this mailing list are those of the original contributors and do not necessarily reflect the opinion of the IRCA, its editors, publishing staff, or officersFor more information: http://www.ircaonline.org Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com] _._,_._,_ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NRC-AM" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to nrc-am+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/nrc-am/CADC3Yg1bFZav8V5t4w0CXCp5%2B0kB%2BpBHBTXyeCHoaAS7EntvsA%40mail.gmail.com. ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 20:15:24 -0600 From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> To: ABDX List <a...@abdx.org>, Hard-Core-DX <Hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>, IRCA List <i...@groups.io>, NRC-AM <nrc...@googlegroups.com> Subject: [HCDX] KBGG 1700 Des Moines OFF AIR Message-ID: <cadc3yg1+owgcdkcyevhgyguh6gkmu44+cvljfdzluucxfsd...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" One dxer reported not hearing it, and while I can usually hear it at some level here in Laramie, WY all I?ve got are the 1700s near Dallas and Tijuana One engineer in Des Moines unrelated to KBGG checked his radio and noted its absence Paul ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 03:26:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Glenn Hauser <wghau...@yahoo.com> To: WOR DXLD <w...@groups.io> Cc: Short-Wave Radio Listening <s...@mailman.qth.net> Subject: [HCDX] Glenn Hauser logs September 24-25, 2020 Message-ID: <977162433.557697.1601004401...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 ** CHINA [and non]. Don`t be fooled by CNR1 jamming as Sound of Hope It can be very misleading to rely on some frequency-list references. First of all, the way-out-of-band SOH transmitters are extremely low power, maybe 100-watts. The ChiCom attempt to jam most of them with high-power regular SWBC transmitters carrying CNR1 programming (rarely Firedrake music). Thus if you hear Chinese on one of these frequencies, your first assumption should be that it is CNR1 jamming, unless definitely proven otherwise by specific ID, or *not* being in // to many other CNR1 frequencies, even legitimate ones which are not jamming. Aoki/NDXC indicates the presence of jamming in some versions merely with an *, easily ignored or overlooked. EiBi has separate entries for the jammers; but not always are all included in either. Altho China participates in HFCC, while preventing Taiwan and any clandestines from doing so, China does not bother to register its jamming transmissions. Would they even deny them if confronted? I know copying real IDs in Chinese is difficult for us, but Ron Howard quotes SOH: "Xiwang zhi sheng guoji guangbo diantai" (Sound of Hope international broadcast station) ID given twice (once by OM and once by YL). Wolfgang Bueschel has done extensive surveys of these with remotes, finding that Sound of Hope is usually slightly off-frequency while the jammers are not. CNR1 programming includes timesignal on the hour, while SOH does not. I often monitor until many of these close at 1400* after TS. CNR1 jamming also applies to high-power inband transmissions including RTI, VOA, RFA, and a few SOH, some of those in turn relaying RFA.. Voice of Tibet and other broadcasts in Tibetan, and Uighur, and even English are also subject to such jamming. Every time some Westerner reports CNR1 jamming as if it were SOH, the ChiCom must be very amused. 73, (Glenn Hauser, WORLD OF RADIO 2053) ** COLOMBIA? 4940, Sept 25 at 0203, again no signal from anonymous mystery missionary station last heard on UT Sept 19. Such non-logs may get a bit tiresome, but we need to keep checking as it originally appeared without notice and recould; while awaiting any word from connected? South American DXers about what and whence it really were, subjunctively (Glenn Hauser, OK, WOR) ** CUBA. 5080, Sept 24 at 0128, filthy spurblob with tell-tale F# tone when tuned in FM mode, just like RHC often provides on 13 or 15 MHz bands. This must be coming out of 5040 transmitter, so are there others at 40 kHz intervals? Yes, but JBA on 5120 and 4960; surely one on 5000 but totally blocked by strong WWV; in less favored locales may well be QRMing WWV/H. By 0144 there is also a trace of program modulation on 5080 as well as blob traces on 5120, 5160. Something`s always wrong at RHC. 5025 Rebelde is still distorted but not involved. Conveniently off the air clearing band for these is 5085 WTWW-2 (Glenn Hauser, OK, WOR) ** U S A [and non]. WORLD OF RADIO 2053 contents: Antarctica, Brasil [5995 item should be credited to Rudolf Grimm], Canada, China, Colombia, Cuba, Czechia, Ireland, Italy non, Kiritimati Island, Korea North and non, Mali, Newfoundland and non, UK, USA, Uzbekistan, Venezuela non; sporadic E; propagation outlook WOR 2053 is available as of 0013 UT Friday September 25 (mp3 stream) http://www.w4uvh.net/wor2053.m3u (mp3 download) http://www.w4uvh.net/wor2053.mp3 Or via http://www.worldofradio.com/audiomid.html Also linx to podcast services. The shortwave broadcasts should be: 0130 UT Friday WRMI 5850 to NW & 5010 to S 2200 UT Friday WRMI 9955 [jammed?] to SSE 0130 UT Saturday WRMI 7780 to NE 1130 UT Saturday WRMI 9955 [jammed?] to SSE 1300 UT Saturday WRMI 15770 to NE 1930vUT Saturday WA0RCR 1860-AM 2300 UT Saturday WRMI 7780 to NE 0300vUT Sunday WA0RCR 1860-AM [nominal 0315; as late as 0400] 0030 UT Monday WRMI 7730 to WNW 0130 UT Monday WRMI 7780 to NE 0230 UT Monday WRMI 7780 to NE, 5800 to SSE 0300vUT Monday WBCQ 6160v Area 61 to WSW 0330 UT Monday WRMI 9955 [jammed?] to SSE 1800vUT Monday IRRS 7290 Bulgaria to WNW, 594-Italy 0100 UT Tuesday WRMI 7780 to NE 0330 UT Tuesday WRMI 5800 to SSE 2100 UT Wednesday WBCQ 7490v to WSW 0100 UT Thursday WRMI 7780 to NE Full schedule including AM, FM, webcasts, satellite, podcasts: http://www.worldofradio.com/radioskd.html Thanks this week for financial support from Gerald T Pollard, Raleigh NC, for a generous quarterly seasonal check on a US bank to Glenn Hauser, P O Box 1684, Enid OK 73702 Financial support may alternatively be sent via PayPal to woradio at yahoo.com - not necessarily US funds as PP will convert. First airing confirmed, UT Fri Sept 25 at 0130 on WRMIs, 5010, S7-S9 direct, // 5850 VG S9+10/20, and intact altho the post-music hit a bit too quickly before my last word could finish, ``disclaimer`` (Glenn Hauser, OK, WOR) ** U S A. 4980, Sept 24 at 0620, weak music registering S9 on generous meter, but undermodulated; like last night and lately, presumed a WRMI transmitter as registered here but not on their website, at exciter level of few watts or maybe a bit more to audiblize it this much (Glenn Hauser, OK, WORLD OF RADIO 2053) ** U S A. 4840, Sept 24 at 0618, WWCR, yet again S9+30 of dead air, while 3215 and 5890 are successfully BSing. This keeps happening to the 4840 transmitter, not that I really care. Wonder if there be anyone in the 1300 WWCR Avenue building overnight who might notice? There ought to be, with hundreds of kilowatts radiating - something. The station burned down once before (Glenn Hauser, OK, WOR) ** U S A. 5085, Sept 25 at 0128 & 0245 chex, WTWW-2 is off; not WTWW-1 as I typoed before. Clears the band for spurs from CUBA, q.v. (Glenn Hauser, OK, WOR) UNIDENTIFIED. Unfortunately awake Sept 24 at 1145 I reluctantly make a quick check for Trans-Pacific carriers on the DX-398, finding only: a trace on 846 kHz, Kiritimati? Usually heard around 0600, but now in darkness several Pacificasians could also propagate, up to 250 kW from Taiwan. It`s really too weak to DF. Walt Salmaniw, Victoria BC, said Kiribati was inbooming there as early as 0515 today, which is post-sunset at station, but no modulation to be heard. And: JBA carrier on 774, difficult to DF, WSW or NW? Maybe both, i.e. Australia and Japan. At 1152 I switch to the E-W longwire which gets JBACs on 594, 774 and 1566. Resleep (Glenn Hauser, OK, WORLD OF RADIO 2053) This report dispatched at 0326 UT September 25 ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2020 23:30:16 -0600 From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> To: NRC-AM <nrc...@googlegroups.com>, IRCA List <i...@groups.io>, Hard-Core-DX <Hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>, ABDX List <a...@abdx.org> Subject: [HCDX] New AM DX Log From Laramie, WY: KGSV 660! Message-ID: <CADC3Yg1q2RBm-37XTNcy2kSYEanc6yM6=ir44veqcf8szu+...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I can finally count Radio Punjab's KGSV 660 Oildale/Bakersfield, CA in my log book here in Laramie, WY. With KTNN off after a transmitter breakdown, it's left 660 wide open. It's mostly been CFFR Calgary but I've had KGSV in the background almsot the entire time KTNN has been off in the last 4 days. However, it was just enough to tell KGSV was there.. Punjab music really sticks out but it just wasn't good enough to meet my "threshold" for what I consider recordable/loggable. Tonight, I've had a minute or three of KGSV thats good enough its clearly identifiable as them and I'd feel comfortable sending this to the station for a reception report Paul End of Hard-Core-DX Digest, Vol 213, Issue 25 *********************************************