That would be FANTASTIC.

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Wiechmann
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 8:07 PM
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Thanks!

I like the proposal, the system was designed as a Provider Portal that did
integrate CHCS and VistA data. We've stripped the CHCS component and
retained the VistA interfaces. The presentation layer would have to undergo
some modifications with the logon, appropriate security, etc. and a real MPI
would have to be integrated. However, most other layers would probably work
off the self. It would be an interesting project.

I hope to have a demonstration available (somehow) at the meeting.

Terry L. Wiechmann
www.esitechnology.com
978-779-0257
Skype: twiechmann
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 1:51 PM
Subject: [Hardhats-members] EsiObjects, and Open Source, etc.


> If memory serves me correctly, Terry did a nice tutorial/presentation on
> EsiObjects at the first WorldVistA meeting I went to in Greenbelt, but
that
> was before OV2.5, before I even knew how to turn on a Linux machine and
> before there were instructions for newbies to install VistA anywhere, so I
> was in no shape to absorb it.  I believe there is a nice tutorial that
came
> with the code that others, like me, who need to get their feet wet, can
use
> to get started.
>
> Even knowing as little as I did then, EsiObjects was impressive! Terry had
> managed to pull together the VA and DOD medical record content into one
> seamless interface as a demo of the capabilities of EsiObjects.  Despite
the
> mandate from congress that that interface be created, I understand that
> Terry's solution was not adopted and the VA and DOD continued to blunder
on
> without it.
>
> It would seem this might be something we could use to create the
equivalent
> of MyHealtheVet, the code for which is not yet available and from what I
was
> told, will contain proprietary elements when and if it is released. My
> HealtheVet essentially allows veterans web access to their health records,
> and with the HHS's firm recommendation that patients be able to access
their
> doctors' electronic medical records, I think EsiObjects could provide one
> solution.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin
> Toppenberg
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 9:45 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] ScreenMan, Medsphere, and Open Source
>
>
> I appreciate what you are doing, Terry.
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
> --- Terry Wiechmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > SourceForge does have a CVS. We have all the
> > EsiObjects C++ (client) code
> > out there. Over the next couple months we will be
> > putting the core MUMPS
> > routines out (next) as well as the class hierarchy.
> > There should be overlap
> > with what I'm doing at the MUMPS level and I would
> > be more than willing to
> > share that code and documentation with this group.
> > It will yet again be a
> > new learning experience and I would suggest one or
> > two WV volunteers who
> > know VistA get involved with me if you chose to take
> > me up on my offer. It
> > will give me the opportunity to learn a little about
> > VistA kitting,
> > structure, etc.
> > I wished I had done this years ago. We were a small
> > group of 3-4 who worked
> > closely with each other. We used VSS in-house and
> > were able to maintain
> > version control rather easily just by coordinating
> > with each other. However,
> > since the developers have been scattered and a
> > couple new volunteers have
> > come on line, it is absolutely essential to have a
> > common repository. With
> > all the people involved in VistA, not having a
> > common version control system
> > is very scary.
> >
> > Terry L. Wiechmann
> > www.esitechnology.com
> > 978-779-0257
> > Skype: twiechmann
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nancy Anthracite" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 10:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] ScreenMan,
> > Medsphere, and Open Source
> >
> >
> > > I am delighted to here that your code will be
> > available at some point.
> > Your
> > > original email stating that it was written for
> > MedSphere was interpreted
> > by
> > > me to mean it was for Medsphere, and only
> > Medsphere. Therefore, I thought
> > > what sounded like a great idea ought to be
> > recreated for the open source
> > > community.
> > >
> > > One of the main strengths of open source as I
> > understand it is that its
> > use
> > > by the community helps to debug it.  So if it is
> > to be available, for now,
> > > it seems it could be put on the SourceForge
> > WorldVistA site for people to
> > > use in a nonproduction environment to help to
> > shake out the bugs.  If we
> > > wait for everything to be perfect, it may never
> > get out.
> > >
> > > The HUI folks released OpenVistA before it was
> > tested out to be perfect
> > > partly in the spirit of letting the open source
> > community help to
> > > participate in its debugging.  In fact, they
> > deliberately released it to
> > get
> > > it out there in time for the Sacramento meeting so
> > that process could
> > begin.
> > > Personally, I congratulate them for it and hope
> > that Medsphere might
> > > consider having your code released "early" as
> > well.
> > >
> > > I find it most unfortunate that the VA has chosen
> > not to use or even
> > > evaluate code submitted by you and others.  It is
> > ironic that you should
> > > mention the internationalization code as I think
> > they could have used it
> > in
> > > their recent effort to help with an implementation
> > of VistA in Mexico. I
> > > don't thing the right hand knows what the left
> > hand already has in it.  I
> > am
> > > not privy to the whole story, but from the bits
> > and pieces I pick up, that
> > > is what I would guess has happened. Perhaps they
> > need to be reminded of
> > what
> > > they were given!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> >
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Behalf Of George
> > > Timson
> > > Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 7:43 PM
> > > To: Hardhats
> > > Subject: [Hardhats-members] ScreenMan, Medsphere,
> > and Open Source
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Hardhats,
> > >
> > > I would like to respond to what I see on the
> > Hardhats Sourceforge archive
> > > page this morning:
> > >
> > > From: "Dr Molly Cheah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >  Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 8:29 AM
> > >  Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] ScreenMan
> > >
> > >
> > >  > Oh, I thought it will be able open source [sic]
> > .... After all
> > Medsphere
> > > uses
> > >  > OpenVistA. Otherwise it sounds like "what"s
> > yours is mine and what is
> > >  > mine is mine" :)
> > >  >
> > >  > Molly
> > >  > Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > >So all you M programmers out there.  How about
> > an OPEN SOURCE version
> > of
> > >  > >this.  Think you can do it?
> > >  > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dr. Anthracite and Dr. Cheah seem to assume that,
> > if I write ScreenMan
> > code
> > > for Medsphere, it will not subsequently be
> > open-sourced.  I am wondering
> > > where they got this impression.  What Medsphere
> > representative has ever
> > > written or said this?
> > >
> > > The facts are that:
> > >
> > > 1) Medsphere has contributed to the Open-source
> > implementation of
> > > GT.M-compatible VistA code since early 2002.
> > >
> > > 2) Medsphere hosted a World VistA meeting at its
> > offices in Orange County
> > in
> > > August 2002, and has sent representatives to
> > virtually every meeting the
> > > group has ever conducted.
> > >
> > > 3) Medsphere offered WorldVistA in 2002 a computer
> > platform and software
> > > (CMS) with which to manage open-source code.  The
> > VistA community seems to
> > > have left this resource unused.
> > >
> > > 4) In December, 2002, Medsphere gave to the DVA,
> > for free, code changes,
> > > written by me and paid for by Medsphere, to over
> > 150 FileMan routines,
> > which
> > > enhance FileMan's Internationalization
> > capabilities.  DVA has done nothing
> > > to disseminate this code in the intervening two
> > years, and has made it
> > more
> > > than clear that it will not deal with unsolicited
> > enhancements or patches
> > to
> > > its large corpus of "parked" VistA software.
> > >
> > >
> > > When the VistA community has in place a mechanism
> > for submitting, testing,
> > > peer-reviewing, approving, and disseminating code
> > modifications, I will be
> > > delighted to know about it.  Our ability at
> > Medsphere to support such a
> > > mechanism in-house has been hampered this year by
> > our ongoing
> > implementation
> > > of VistA for several hospitals in the South
> > Central U.S.  Nor do we now
> > > believe that such a code-sharing mechanism should
> > be in the hands of one
> >
> === message truncated ===
>
>
>
>
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