What was interesting about the hostname -s to me was trying to track down where it got hostname -s from. That is what got me really going in circles and I eventually figured out it got it from the first part of *.localdomain in /etc/hosts .
On Monday 22 November 2004 08:15 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: > Daniel mentioned checking the man page for hostname. > > It's too long to include everything, but here is the > -s part: > > -s, --short > Display the short host name. This is the host name > cut at the first dot. > > > so here is the part from my /etc/hosts file: > # Do not remove the following line, or various > programs > # that require network functionality will fail. > ... > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > Linux > ... > > > so here is different outputs from hostname: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] kdtop]$ hostname > Linux > [EMAIL PROTECTED] kdtop]$ hostname -s > localhost > [EMAIL PROTECTED] kdtop]$ > > > > Kevin > > --- Daniel Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks Fil, I take that as a great compliment. And > > you knew I would. > > > > All other readers: Fil has exaggerated my > > reputation as a hacker, but maybe > > it was because of something I said . . . > > > > Nancy: I'm not too sure what information will help, > > but here is a paragraph > > from Krn8_Osm.pdf > > > > ============== > > BOX-VOLUME PAIR > > This field identifies a volume set and the CPU on > > which it is available. It > > contains the name of a volume set concatenated to > > the CPU ("box") name: > > first the volume set name and then the CPU name. For > > example, if the > > volume set name is "KRN" and the name of the CPU > > (e.g., box) is "ISC6A1", > > then the box-volume pair would be "KRN:ISC6A1". > > > > For systems on which each CPU tends to have a unique > > volume set, and vice > > versa, you may enter just the volume set name (e.g., > > "PSA" or "AAA"). This > > field's value for the current process can be found > > by doing GETENV^%ZOSV > > and checking the fourth ^-piece of Y. Since the > > volume set and CPU are > > identified, the TaskMan site parameters can be tuned > > for each specific > > volume set and CPU affected. Systems running > > Managers on more than one > > CPU need one entry for each CPU where a manager is > > running. > > ============= > > > > So for Kernel to work, VOL:BOX has to be set up > > right. But why do they call > > it Box-Volume, why not call it Volume-Box? The name > > of it caused me some > > confusion when I was setting up taskman. And yes, > > the ^%ZOSF("PROD") and > > ^%ZOSF("MGR") and ^%ZOSF("VOL") have to be all set > > right, and that is done > > when you do ^ZTMGRSET. Maybe ^ZTMGRSET should get > > "BOX" name, and at least > > begin setup of KERNEL SITE PARAMETERS. Maybe it > > does. > > > > The version of Kernel I am running, has the code I > > showed below, that is, > > the call to GETENV^%ZOSV calling RETURN^%ZOSV which > > evoked the GTM function > > ZSYSTEM("hostname -s") > > From the GTM documentation, it looks like the > > ZSYSTEM call is a way to > > generate a "plainjane" Linux command. And I would > > suppose that one could > > say, to Linux > > #hostname -s > > and you would get a parameter out of the etc/hosts > > file, hopefully the "box" > > name, or the short name of your computer. > > > > I think that Linux uses different names for > > different things, Redhat9, I > > think, provides for a longname and a shortname, and > > whoever wrote the ^%ZOSF > > that I have, knew to look for the short name (thus > > "-s"). One could do > > $man hostname and see what it says there, I will do > > that when I get a > > chance. But there should be some documentation > > somewhere that tells the > > naïve user to name his computer with a short and > > sweet alias, and to check > > KERNEL SITE PARAMS to make sure taskman will run. > > > > It looks like the Linux configuration provides for > > three fields in the hosts > > file. The first is IP address, the second is the > > name of your computer (a > > shortname), and the longname might be the URL of > > your system. If this is > > really the case, then Kernel could use that > > shortname as a "box" name, to > > identify your "box" on a network. > > > > Maybe there is a difference between Redhat9 and > > Fedora, and maybe there is a > > difference in the GTM systems we are running, and > > maybe a difference in the > > VA Kernel we are running. > > > > The comments below indicate all three are different, > > and we need to get on > > the same page of music before our conversation will > > make sense. > > > > Dan > > GTM>h > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of Beza, Fil > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 3:07 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Volume Sets > > > > If it is about VistA Kernel, I doubt if I could say > > anything that Dan > > doesn't know. He's the hacker and knows more about > > the ins and outs of > > Kernel than I do. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of Nancy E. > > Anthracite > > Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 5:33 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Volume Sets > > > > I am running Fedora Core 2, which isn't that far > > from Redhat and the short > > name comes from the first half of that > > localhost.localdomain or > > XXX.localdomain XXX part, but it does not have to be > > the same as the volume > > set. I know that from my installation. You set the > > volume set internally > > in Vista from $P(^%ZOSF("PROD"),",",2) and that is > > set, I think, in the > > volume set file and it is the volume set that is the > > signon/production > > volume set in the volume set file. > > > > Fil, Wally, Rick, Marianne or somebody who knows > > this stuff, help us out > > here, please. > > > > > > > > On Saturday 20 November 2004 03:24 pm, Daniel Gray > > > > wrote: > > > Nancy: > > > Little things like this are really slowing down my > > > > progress, but I am > > > > > learning a lot about Linux and GTM in the process. > > > > Getting a little déjà > > > > > vu of the early days in VistA. The only FileMan > > > > doc was, I think, 20 > > pages > > > > > long (but, as George T will attest), everything > > > > was there, you only needed > > > > > to know where to look. We would call him up, he > > > > would say (without > > > > > looking), "page 18, on the bottom, there in the > > > > example". > > > > > Here is my origional hosts file, right after > > > > installation of Redhat 9: > > > # Do not remove the following line, or various > > > > programs > > > > > # that require network functionality will fail. > > > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost > > > > > > GTM>D GETENV^%ZOSV > > > hostname: Unknown host > > > > > > GTM>ZWRITE > > > Y="VAH^ROU^^ROU:" > > > > > > GTM> > > > > > > Here is the "hosts" file as it is now. > > > # Do not remove the following line, or various > > > > programs > > > > > # that require network functionality will fail. > > > 127.0.0.1 ROU x1-6-00-e0-18-62-af-ec > > > > > > GTM>D GETENV^%ZOSV > > > > > > GTM>ZWRITE > > > Y="VAH^ROU^ROU^ROU:ROU" > > > > > > If I take out the third field, leaving only two, > > > # Do not remove the following line, or various > > > > programs > > > > > # that require network functionality will fail. > > > 127.0.0.1 ROU > > > > > > GTM>D GETENV^%ZOSV > > > hostname: Unknown host > > > > > > GTM>ZWRITE > > > Y="VAH^ROU^^ROU:" > > === message truncated === > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! > http://my.yahoo.com > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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