Has anyone looked at Python?  It looks like a nearest neighbor to
MUMPS, with lots of similarities.  I has an interesting dictionary
capability, handles strings well, and a very strong object model. 
What about embedding M in Python?


On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:41:10 -0800 (PST), Jim Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Terry L. Wiechmann wrote:
> >If the community is going to revive the standardization process, it better
> >have a 'vision' beyond the Millennium Standard.
> 
> I am excited to think that things may be moving in that direction, but I 
> think that
> revival of a MUMPS standardization process may be premature. It must be 
> balanced against
> an active culture of innovation and language development that would otherwise 
> result in
> divergence and vendor lock-in.
> 
> We have a beginning foundation for that in the existence of several open 
> source
> implementations of mumps, but so far it seems that very few people are 
> involved in
> innovation at the language level, even to the point of informally discussing 
> language
> enhancements for experimental implementation.
> 
> >The fact is MUMPS is
> >perceived as an old procedural language. It's viewed as dead by the
> >'outside' world.
> 
> Before GT.M was released for GNU/Linux MUMPS seemed very close to dead for 
> many of the
> rest of us as well.
> 
> >If you want to get new blood involved, the goals for the
> >language will have to show an evolution towards what the rest of the world
> >wants, not what makes the existing MUMPS community comfortable.
> 
> I agree with this to some extent. People who care about long term viability 
> of a MUMPS
> community must find and embrace a path to enabling new applications and ways 
> of doing
> things with existing applications that includes easy coexistence and 
> cooperation with
> applications and parts of applications written in other languages.
> 
> The main thing that needs to be shown to new people is evidence of compelling 
> value in
> learning MUMPS and committing the time and effort to building new 
> applications and in
> extending and fixing old ones to fit with newer technologies - especially the 
> web.
> 
> >Its future
> >must be viewed as in step with existing technologies. Without climbing into
> >the pulpit, I think everyone knows the direction it must take :-)
> 
> Yes, indeed, but there may be more than one. ;-) The obvious need in my view 
> is for
> language features to facilitate development of web based applications and an 
> easy mix with
> other programming languages and OS features.
> 
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------
> Jim Self
> Systems Architect, Lead Developer
> VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis
> (http://www.vmth.ucdavis.edu/us/jaself)
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