Hi Rusty, what about the following strategy:
You extract (now I am in the extraction camp) all DI* routines and run DINIT. I guess it will ask for the missing routines. I remember vaguely that in earlier days some %-Routines had to be edited by hand, had to do with dates and our other date-format, but I do not remember which ones. Also the device interface %ZIS probably has to be edited. +++++++++++++ Meanwhile I became interested and studied old manuals. In the VA FileMan Vs. 21 Programmers Manual from 1994 I found: <quote>"VA FileMan is designed to be used ether with Kernel or as a stand-alone application running under a variety of implementations of ANSI standard MUMPS. If VA FileMan is used without the Kernel, the basic DBMS features of VA-FileMan work as desribed in the manuals. However, there are some features (for example bulletin-type cross references, print queuing, and filegrams) that do not work without portions of the Kernel. Whenever the Kernel is needed to support a particular VA FileMan feature, that fact is mentioned in the manuals. The installation ... is not integrated witrh the installation of Kernel. The VA FileMan Installation Guide contains instructions on how to install FileMan, both for stand-alone sties and for sites running Kernel. This chapter describes special issues which must be adressed regarding terminal devices if you are using VA FileMan without the Kernel's device handling capabilities. ... VA FileMan requires a %ZIS routine. ... "<unquote> The manual describes in detail, how to build %ZIS and %ZISS and how to refile the DIIS and DIIS routines from the DI* package. I would like ask Baskhar to provide the right answers for GT.M Btw. So far I have never tried to install Kernel stand-alone. I suppose that there is a Kernel-installation routine like DINIT, and a Kernel installation manual, too. What do the hardhats say? Best regards, it is fun to dig in old, good memories, tribute to George Timson and the underground railroad! Wolfgang > Wolfgang, > I will also go back to your earlier posting on DINIT > I mentioned you in the "extraction" camp only because you started with a > full installation (yes, selective use is not the same as isolating your > learning space from other available routines using an extraction) . > JLZ has similarly advocated expedient selective use ( as I quote from > another thread) " If diamond is not available, I would install openvista > semiviva 0.4 and ignore most of that, keep to a name/numberspace, and > draw upon the rest when it suits the task." > When I get back to my Vista machine perhaps I should join your camp, > although my goal is not personal use based on experience, it will be > just for learning. > For that primordial purpose I am a little distrustful of having too many > addon routines standing by...but I don't know what should be considered > the ideal Fileman Lite or Fileman+ ... not to mention the strategy for > isolating it on GTM. > When I learned to swim they just threw me in (that was the supervised > method of the day). In returning to this threadname, I am just asking > for which is the shallow end of the pool and with rescuers available, > it may not matter which end you start in. > Thanks for clarification > > Rusty > > > If you have installed Vista you can just leave it alone and reinstall > > all the > > files needed using the FileMan installation routine DINIT (Do ^DINIT). > > You will > > have to answer some questions but the resualt is a running and complete > > FileMan. > > It uses the routines in your vista distribution. It is not necessary to > > figure out > > which ones (of course all DI* routines, but a few others, too). I did no > > extraction at all, only an addition: A new FileMan for my "private" use. > > > > Wolfgang Giere > > > > > > > > T Maynard wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> The extraction camp: > >> This includes setting up a new gtmglbldir from > >> latest VistA as done by Wolfgang Giere ...but that > >> camp does not convey what the essential extraction > >> files would be to the likes of me. > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. 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