You are very nice, but it won't work. I am not likely to be able to help this group. Besides, you will notice that it is not me that usually figures things out. It is me that pesters all of you until some else figures it out.
The inquisitive part may be right, though. I found out part of the reason why we are getting all of these requests. There is apparently a group of students who have been tasked with getting VistA going with Java for a charity hospital in India. I am not sure if they are supposed to be working independently, or if they can work as a group, or why Java, or what all of the ins and outs of this are yet, I do know that if you think you have seen a lot of activity on the Hardhats list, you should have seen my email before that! In any case, I think this sounds like a very worthwhile project on several levels and I hope that those of you who really do know something about this can help these folks out. If we put our answers on the Hardhats mailing list, which I have asked them all to sign up for, I think they will all benefit. I hope to find out more soon about the details of their project, so stay tuned. On Tuesday 28 December 2004 01:14 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote: > Don't be so sure!!! > Many of us remember when Nancy first logged on. Tireless, courage, > inquisitive, intellect, and persistent are words that come to mind.../t ;-0 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy E. Anthracite > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 5:18 AM > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components > > > > No, Nancy hasn't done it and I strongly doubt Nancy will have the > > foggiest idea how to help if she did try it. Remember, Nancy was the one > > who asked what CCOW is. ;-) > > > > On Tuesday 28 December 2004 03:29 am, David Sommers wrote: > > > I hope to provide help however, I haven't implemented HealtheVet myself > > > so I don't have any silver bullets for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure someone else on the list (*cough Nancy cough*) has done it and > > > might have a few insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > /David. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > krishna meera > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 1:44 AM > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components > > > > > > > > > > > > hello david, > > > I installed the CPRS 24.27th version.After .I added the > > > patients.provider,ward,clinic etc using the commands.But in the > > > coversheet for each item do we need to add each options through > > > commands?. > > > > > > Another one is how we will integrate this CPRS in HealtheVet desktop > > > components using CCOW.I think CCOW is calling at the time of clicking > > > on the view chart option from HealtheVet near to the edit task > > > button..right? Is there any document saying the proper implementation > > > of it? > > > > > > Hope i will get your help.... > > > krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "David Sommers" > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components > > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:42:28 -0500 > > > > > > > http://www.hl7.org/special/Committees/ccow_sigvi.htm > > > > > > > > It's a HL7 standard for maintaining patient and user context on the > > > > clinician's desktop. > > > > > > > > Basically if you have CPRS open and pick John Doe. Then fire up > > > > iMedConsent(tm), our software will have John Doe already up. No > > > > confusion among names, SSNs, DOBs, etc. The key is uniform patient > > > > selection and context. > > > > > > > > If you change the patient in CPRS, iMedConsent(tm) is notified of the > > > > patient change and automatically updates. If you have a document up > > > > in > > > > > > > > our system (created for John Doe) and then change patients, our > > > > system > > > > > > > > will challenge CCOW. With a challenge, a user can either accept the > > > > patient change (destroy the document since it was for John and not > > > > > > Jane) > > > > > > > OR disregard the change and stay on John (we would leave the document > > > > up). > > > > > > > > The applications can now communicate with other, on the local system, > > > > about the patient and user. The VA isn't currently using SSO > > > > > > technology > > > > > > > but it is part of the Sentillion solution and it's going to be used > > > > someday. Using Sentillion and CCOW, User context can also be shared > > > > on > > > > > > > > the local system to enable SSO. [Auto-Login is SSO but many sites > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > (or can't) use it, this will supplement it]. > > > > > > > > I put it in the context of how our company uses it - I'm sure there > > > > > > are > > > > > > > other practical uses in other products but I'm not aware of any > > > > beyond > > > > > > > > the basics for linking patients. > > > > > > > > /David. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > > > > Nancy > > > > > > > E. Anthracite > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 11:18 PM > > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components > > > > > > > > Could you please give those of us who have no idea about CCOW what it > > > > > > is > > > > > > > and > > > > why one wants/needs it? > > > > > > > > On Sunday 26 December 2004 11:06 pm, David Sommers wrote: > > > > > Now this is the stuff that I do know... :) > > > > > > > > > > Sentillion will give you a license for software integration and > > > > > development against any of their CCOW installations. The VA has a > > > > > license for Sentillion CCOW on the enterprise, so I (the vendor) > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > have to pay to use CCOW (outside a nominal one-time fee). > > > > > > > > > > But as a hospital, you'd have to license CCOW for your site which > > > > > consists of not only client-side software but hardware running the > > > > > > > > "CCOW > > > > > > > > > Vaults". These Vaults maintain CCOW Connection information and > > > > > state > > > > > > > > > > across all your clients (and that's where your client-side software > > > > > connects to). > > > > > > > > > > Now I don't know the costs for a hospital, but for someone > > > > > > integrating > > > > > > > > with an existing Sentillion site - it's not too bad at all. > > > > > > > > > > Now CCOW is not required for CPRS and VistA Imaging (yet). If you > > > > > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > have the CCOW components installed, the software will bypass the > > > > > > CCOW > > > > > > > > check and continue working in "legacy". If a system (such as > > > > > HealtheVet) requires CCOW access, we could work three solutions. > > > > > > > > > > 1) Remove CCOW and use another means of transferring the patient > > > > > > link. > > > > > > > > 2) Implement a different CCOW product (that's made from scratch or > > > > > > > > Open > > > > > > > > > Source). > > > > > 3) Talk to Sentillion. > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > > > > > /David. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > > > > > > > Nancy > > > > > > > > > E. Anthracite > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 10:21 PM > > > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components > > > > > > > > > > In the past, Sentillion would send you a developers trial copy of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > software. You have to fill out a form as I recall, then I think > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > call > > > > > you and mail it to you if you pass muster. I got a copy once to use > > > > > with > > > > > VistAImaging, and then never got the Accusoft software so I haven't > > > > > > > > used > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > (yet?). It took quite a while to get it as I recall - I think > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > 4-6 weeks,but I could be wrong about the that. > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday 26 December 2004 05:06 pm, Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > > > > > > The CCOW components for VistA are all based on Sentillion work > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > have the > > > > > > > > > > > following notice at the beginning of all the documentation (which > > > > > > > > > > means > > > > > > > > > > > it's not available through FOIA): > > > > > > > > > > > > Notice to Government Users > > > > > > The Sentillion product suite is commercial computer software that > > > > > > > > > > includes > > > > > > > > > > > commercial documentation, manuals, and related technical data. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > > > > > > development of this commercial software was privately funded, > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > no > > > > > > > > > > government funding, therefore, the only rights that the > > > > > > Government > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > this commercial computer software are those specified in the > > > > > > > > > > applicable > > > > > > > > > > > Government license agreement. The Software and documentation > > > > > > > > provided > > > > > > > > > > therewith are provided with RESTRICTED RIGHTS. Use, duplication, > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > disclosure by the United States Government is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > restrictions > > > > > > > > > > > as set forth in Federal Acquisition Regulation 12.212 for > > > > > > civilian > > > > > > > > > > agencies > > > > > > > > > > > and Defense Federal Acquisition Regulation 227.7202 for military > > > > > > > > > > agencies. > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > > > > Of > > > > > > > > > > Joseph > > > > > > > > > > > Dal Molin > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 2:47 PM > > > > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you can point Google to any website and search for things > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > that ZIP file.... > > > > > > > > > > > > J. > > > > > > > > > > > > krishna meera wrote: > > > > > > > Is any one know from which folder, i will get the file called > > > > > > > OSLC_IG.ZIP from the ftp site of vista.I think it contains the > > > > > > > instructions for installing ccow components > > > > > > > > > > > > > > krishna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Nancy E. Anthracite" > > > > > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop Components > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 14:50:46 +0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please look at my email of 12-25 at 11:47 and Fil Beza's > > > > > > > > email > > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > > > immediately follow it RE the MPI and calling Austin. Go to > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > > > site.http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=hardhats-member > > >s > > > > > > > > > > > There is a search function here as well, so you will often be > > > > > > > > > > able to > > > > > > > > > > > > find > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > answers to questions that have to do with CPRS, etc., that > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > Unfortunately, there is not much about HealteVet Desktop as > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > > > > > > > relatively new subject. I understand that HealtheVet desktop > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > relatively > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > limited functionality at this time and there will not be a > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > > > fledged replacement for CPRS done in Java by the VA until the > > > > > > > > > > middle > > > > > > > > > > > > > of next > > > > > > > > > > > > > > year at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the best, so you might consider using CPRS for now if you are > > > > > > > > > > > > > > planning to try > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to do anything with it any time soon. I noted there are > > > > > > > > something > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > order of 1600 RPC Broker calls. There is a lot of work to be > > > > > > > > done > > > > > > > > > yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, to find out about adding a physician and giving him the > > > > > > > > > > proper > > > > > > > > > > > > keys and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > permissions, look at http://www.geocities.com/kdtop3/ and the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Post-Install > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > notes section. I will send you another document that is only > > > > > > > > > > partially > > > > > > > > > > > > > complete and I will also send Kevin to put on his site that > > > > > > > > > > includes > > > > > > > > > > > > > my initial explorations of the Clinical Coordinators job, > > > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > > class > > > > > > > > > > > > > and provider class, or something like that. I think giving > > > > > > > > > > yourself > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ORES key > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and assigning provider status in file 200 will help. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday 26 December 2004 10:33 am, rev athy wrote: > > > > > > > > > Iam trying to install the Healthevet desktop framework in > > > > > > > > > > vista, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > using the cache database,vistalink also installed > > > > > > > > > At the time of adding a patient where the datas are saving > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > > > Austin or in the localhost M'server? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After adding the patient also the healthevet desktop shows > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > 'no > > > > > > > > > > > > > > patient found" is it because of not admitting the patient ? > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > tried > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that also but at the end of the admitting process it asks > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > a" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PRIMARY PHYSICIAN:" I added a provider to it but its not > > > > > > > > > > taking, it > > > > > > > > > > > > says > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "select active providers only" > > > > > > > > > which command gives us the active providers ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > at the time of adding a patient also it shows the error > > > > > > > > > like > > > > > > > > > > "Could > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not connect to MPI or Timed Out". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what we have to do to install the CCOW components in > > > > > > > > HealtheVet > > > > > > > > > > > Desktop > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > framework? Is there any documentation? do i need any other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > configuration to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get the chart view in healthevet desktop components > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can anyone help me > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > revathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > From: "Nancy E. Anthracite" > > > > > > > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop > > > > > > Components > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 15:08:39 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Believe me, you do not want to connect to Austin. That is > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > US > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Department of Veteran's Affairs Master Patient Index. > > > > > > > > > > Eventually, > > > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > may want your own MPI. For now, let it time out, and I am > > > > > > > > > > sure > > > > > > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will post a solution to that problem. At one time, I > > > > > > > > > > found > > > > > > > > > > > > someplace > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > where in the code the amount of time it was supposed to > > > > > > > > wait > > > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > > > > > > entered > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and I wondered if just making that very short would be > > > > > > > > > > sufficient > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > particularly as it would allow them to put in their own > > > > > > MPI > > > > > > > > > > sometime in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the future. Perhaps someone knows if this would suffice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday 25 December 2004 01:20 pm, rev athy wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > kevin, > > > > > > > > > > > when iam trying to connect to the clinicians dashboard > > > > > > > > > > > i > > > > > > > > > > will be > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting the following result.. ""......Attempting to > > > > > > > > > > connect to > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Master Patient Index in Austin... If no SSN or inexact > > > > > > > > DOB > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > > common > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > name, this request may take some time, please be > > > > > > > > patient... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could not connect to MPI or Timed Out, assigning local > > > > > > > > ICN > > > > > > > > > (if > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already assig ned)........."" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can i make a connection with Austin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > revathy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" > > > > > > > > > > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] HealtheVet Desktop > > > > > > > > > > Components > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 09:08:21 -0800 (PST) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nancy, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When you see the phrase "allows any language to use > > > > > > > > > > > > Broker", this usually means that they have developed > > > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > COM object. Most languages have methods to interface > > > > > > > > > > > > with a COM object. If you are using visual basic, and > > > > > > > > > > > > the COM object has been registered, then the object > > > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > probably already available in VB. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Nancy E. Anthracite" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I noted this version of documentation for the > > > > > > > > > > > > > Broker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Development Kit that is a bit newer than what is on > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.Hardhats.org and it mentions an API in there > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > "allows any > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > language to use Broker". I don't know enough about > > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > > know if > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this documentation will help, or even if it is > > > > > > > > > > significantly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different from the 1997 documentation, but maybe it > > > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help. > > > > There is more documentation in that same > > > > > > > > > > directory > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that might help > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as well. > > > > > > http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Infrastructure/Remote_Proc_Call_Broke > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >r_(R PC)/xwb1_1p26dg.pdf > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Saturday 25 December 2004 08:21 am, rev athy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I installed cache database and now iam trying to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > integrate the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > caremanagement and cprs modules to HealtheVet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > desktop framework.I started > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the framework but not getting any patients to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > select from the database . I > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > already added patients into the database now also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it shows like "no patiens > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to select" then i can't be able to see the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > functionalities of that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > framework. But i added the perspectives using > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ORRCMM but patients are not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > getting , Now i will be in the middle way no idea > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what to do next with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it.can any one please help me to get out of this > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ammassurya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Nancy Anthracite > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide > > > > > > > > > > > > > Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT > > > > > > > > > > > > > Products from real users. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover which products truly live up to the hype. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Start reading now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hardhats-members mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > > > > Send holiday email and support a worthy cause. 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