Jim Gray
----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Direct changes to ^DD
Actually, you can have more than one -- or certainly it should. The subscript below "ID" doesn't have to be "WRITE". You can have "W1" or "W2", etc. (the 'W' is a convention). Have you run into problems here?
--- steven mcphelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If it is your own file that is should not be a problem. But then it only allows for a single "pseudo-identifier" node. On a file other than your own, you can clash with other packages that might want to add "pseudo-identifiers". The PATIENT file itself has multiple "pseudo-identifiers".
----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Direct changes to ^DD
> Why can't you do this with a write identifier?
>
> --- steven mcphelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > There are times when one might want to edit a normal Fileman
field
> > identifier. You do not like the way Fileman displays the
information
> > so you
> > want to change that output. However, you do want Fileman to
prompt
> > the user
> > for those fields when they enter a new entry in a file. Of
course
> > their is
> > a Kludge away around this and it may be the preferable
alternative.
> > I am
> > not exactly sure how the Fileman DBS code returns identifiers.
For
> > example
> > in LIST^DIC, does Fileman hard-code the returning of the
identifier
> > information if it is normal identifier and does not actually
execute
> > ^DD(file,0,"IX",field#)? If that is the case then the
modifications
> > to
> > that node that you make may not translate into returns from FM
DBS
> > calls.
> >
> > The kludge workaround could be to create a regular field
identifier
> > but
> > answer NO to the Want to display prompt. This way that field
will be
> > asked
> > during new entry input. Then you create the "pseudo-identifier"
> > similar to
> > Greg's suggestion. Except I would not use the "WRITE" node.
You
> > should
> > have your own VA-DBA assigned namespace. If you do not have one,
> > then you
> > should use the ZZ* namespace. Thus you would set up
> > ^DD(file,0,"ID",<namespace>). Any writes must be handled by
calling
> > EN^DDIOL instead of using the WRITE command.
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Greg Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Direct changes to ^DD
> >
> >
> > > Regardless of the fields involved, you can create a write
> > identifier
> > > like this (where, of course, "number" should be replaced by
your
> > file
> > > number):
> > >
> > >
> > > >>S ^DD(number,0,"ID","WRITE")="D EN^DDIOL(""BOO!"",,""!"")"
> > >
> > > >>D Q^DI
> > >
> > >
> > > VA FileMan 22.0
> > >
> > >
> > > Select OPTION: INQUIRE TO FILE ENTRIES
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: GREG'S TEST FILE//
> > > Select GREG'S TEST FILE MESSAGE ID: ?
> > > Answer with GREG'S TEST FILE MESSAGE ID:
> > > 101 FIRST
> > > BOO!
> > >
> > > --- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I assume you are referring to Fileman geenrated identifiers
like
> > > >
> > > > ^DD(filenum,0,"ID",.05) = W " ",$P(^(0),U,2)
> > > >
> > > > I would not touch these at all: they are part of Fileman's
> > domain.
> > > > The
> > > > whole point of so-called write identifiers is to give the
> > programmer
> > > > an
> > > > opportunity to create custom identifiers. As a general rule,
it's
> > > > just
> > > > not a good idea to play around with code that is generated by
> > > > Fileman.
> > > >
> > > > If you go to the "Utility Functions" menu and choose
> > "Identifier",
> > > > you
> > > > will be prompted for a field. If there is already an
identifier
> > > > defined
> > > > for that field, Fileman will let you know and ask if you want
to
> > > > delete
> > > > it. Otherwise, it will generate an "ID" node similar to the
> > above.
> > > >
> > > > --- James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > I assume that if you want to edit a field identifier you
have
> > to
> > > > > either
> > > > > delete it and then re-enter it with your modifications or
edit
> > the
> > > > > definition in the global.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Greg Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:12 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Direct changes to ^DD
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Okay, that makes sense. Take a look at
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <http://www.hardhats.org/fileman/pm/gfs_frm.htm>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Since write identifiers have to be hard set, so you must
> > remember
> > > > > to
> > > > > > add an "I" to the file characteristics node (0-node of
file)
> > > > > yourself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> We have not done anything yet. We have not figured out
how
> > to
> > > > > edit
> > > > > >> an
> > > > > >> identifier the way we MAY want it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >> From: "Greg Woodhouse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >> To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 1:46 PM
> > > > > >> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Direct changes to ^DD
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > It shouldn't make a difference how the change was
made, so
> > > > long
> > > > > as
> > > > > >> > everything is structured correctly. But why are you
> > > > hard-coding
> > > > > a
> > > > > >> > change to ^DD?
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > --- James Gray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >> If a programmer hard codes a change in a cross
reference,
> > > > > trigger,
> > > > > >> or
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> something similar in the ^DD global will a KIDS build
> > include
> > > > > that
> > > > > >> >> change in
> > > > > >> >> an automated way?
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Jim Gray
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>
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