Here is a message from Lee Hirz, one of the former Mailman developers:Mailman sends and receives messages locally in 2 ways. One method is to can send and receive messages as soon as the user hits the return on the SEND command. Because MailMan is configured to run according to a standard in VistA, this way is only available if a programmer goes into the code and makes a couple of changes, but it is the best way to run MailMan in a small hospital... because operations are much simpler.I don't have the code in from of me, but you can recognize it because in order to "queue" messages for delivery by "filers" that are started by TaskMan, there has be be a record inserted into the queue. There is a transfer of control (GOTO) or a QUIT right after that, but below that, if the code hasn't changed a lot, will be the code that does the delivery and is even called by the filers. Basically, all that needs to be done is to remove the transfer of control and set a couple of variables. The second method uses a background filer that must be started by TaskMan. In either case the Postmaster is just like any other user and can send and receive messages. MailMan sends message across the network only using TaskMan tasks. Greg Woodhouse wrote: The submananagers are the proceses that actually do the work (the thread pool, if you will). It Taskman goes long enough without any work to do, th submanagers will shut down anyway. But the manager will always start submanagers when they are needed. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure if submanagers will still pick up tasks if Taskman is in a wait state. Does anyone know? --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:OK Nick, When I use the menu system to call XUTM WAIT, it asks if submanagers should be shut down (I answered NO). It then says: Done. I then do option XUTM ZTMON, and it does not show taskman in a wait state. Perhaps because I didn't stop the submanagers... Don't worry about answering this. All's well that ends well. Thanks Kevin --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:The output of D ^ZTMON will show the submanagers as in waiting state. Bye Nick --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Nick, I just played with putting my Taskman into andthenback out of the wait state. I couldn't immediately tell that it was in thewaitstate. How did you tell it was stuck in wait? Thanks Kevin --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi Finally I found the culprit. Actually the Taskman was in WAIT state. As soonasIchanged the state, all the messages reachedtheircorresponding recipients. Bye Nick --- "Nancy E. Anthracite"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:My guess it that you didn't have any problemsonlybecause you put UCI in all the places that needed UCI and VOL in all oftheplaces that needed VOL. Had you called whatever was in UCI in the VistAyoustarted with, and VOL what was in the VOL, you would have had to havechangedit in fewer places. I think the key is always with D GETENV^%ZOSVandthensetting all of the parameters correctly with NO TYPOS and allthatgoodstuff the first time around. At the risk of being a broken record,thathappens to be broken in the same place as Lloyd's record that brokefromallthe times he used it to tell me to do this ... VISTA>D GETENV^%ZOSV VISTA>W Y Which give you in the output in the respective places: UCI^VOL^NODE^BOX:VOLUME This is actually written right into VistA atoneofthe ?? points, although I don't recall which one. Although I have not done configuration, I surehavehad lots of chances to help people with installations, and this iswhereall of the problems are. Lloyd knows it so well, he can even tell bytheerror message where the typos are. Now that is what I call "experienced"! On Saturday 29 January 2005 04:26 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:For what it is worth, it seems that most oftheproblems that I have hear people talk aboutonthisboard in regards to taskman, is a problemwiththeVOL,UCI etc. issue. Most recommend usingthedefaultsprovided by the system, but it seems thatthisleadspoeple to problems. I cleared out all theotherentries, and called my UCI "UCI", and calledmyVOL,"VOL". It seems like I haven't had theproblemsthatothers have... Kevin --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi The CPRS problem was due to the change infileaccess rights. That has been solved. But the"Waitingfor apartition" problem, does not seem to beoveryet.Nick --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Nick, Do you have a way to make your serveraccessibleonthe internet for someone else to pokearoundon?I'd be willing to look at it for acoupleofminutesif you want to contact me off-board. I'm self taught, so no promises as towhetherornotI can get you up. Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Nick James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:Hi I was able to overcome the previousproblemwiththecommand GO^XMKPLQ and GO^XMTDT, torunthe "MOVER" and "TICKLER". But still I was unable to send andreceivemessages.So I just checked to see the tasks running in TASKMAN, whose screen shotIamgivingbelow : 510: ^LRCAPPH, COLLECT PHLEBOTOMY CAPWORKLOAD.Nodevice. VAH,ROU. From 1/24/2005 at 18:14, By you.=== message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Easier than ever with enhanced search. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IntelliVIEW -- Interactive Reporting Tool for open source databases. Create drag-&-drop reports. Save time by over 75%! Publish reports on the web. 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