Greg;
You got that right... But when
you start getting users and programmers together, magic happens and the model
gets better. If they do it right, then we add it to the general release
and everyone wins. We would like to have every site become a testing
ground for new ideas and new solutions to common problems (even uncommon
problems). We will be forming up new development groups to add new
functionality, begin mapping out re-engineering of old functionality (there are
a lot of reasons to do this effort, but it has to be done very carefully so as
to not loose any functionality). There will be discussions about how this
technology can be allowed to continue its evolution. Come hear the new
ideas and help select what gets added and what gets parked. Ethical issues
will be discussed as well. How much access could a site give to allow for
remote reporting of problems? Would your site be willing to have a process
automatically summarize your error trap and report it to one of WorldVistA's
sites for analysis, so we can prioritize our efforts to patch exceptions in
the applications? How much information would your site allow to be
transferred in such a report (not much is really needed to help us evaluate the
work required)?
Well, time for me to get off the
soap-box. Thanks, Greg (will we see you in Boston?);
Chris
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 7:14
PM
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Dificulty
with Fileman search
If you really want to find an accomplished FM users, find a
user that is very analytical, has a great need to know and boundless
curiosity, topped with great heapings of patience. Why not a
programmer? Because the M programmer has a pressure release valve.
When they can't get FM to do what they want, they break down and program
it. The poor user is forced to try again and again and again.
These mental gymantics leave them with an impressive FM six-pack... and
a wise programmer won't try to match wits with them in the pure FM arena.
;-)
Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
While we are on the topic of sorting etc, can someone
explain how the "START WITH" option works. Everytime
I put something in this field, I get back no records.
What do I put there?
Kevin
--- Greg Kreis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
You will still get the 'just a moment' message if
the field is indexed
and you use the = syntax. To make the best use of
the index, specify
the field and put in the same value for 'start with'
and 'goto'.
Greg Woodhouse wrote:
No. "Sorting" is basically a matter of iterating
through an index. If
you only want one value, you can use the "=" syntax
in the sort.
Searching is considerably more flexible. George
Timson's point was that
sorting is often all you need if you just want
records having a single
index value. Unfortunately, I chose a field that
wasn't indexed, hence
the "just a moment" comment from Fileman.
--- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
So are you saying that sorting by a single given
value
is the same as a search for that same single given
value?
Our intial discussion was how to create a "set",
which
is done by create a template. Can that be done
with
this method?
Thanks
Kevin
--- Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Select OPTION: PRINT FILE ENTRIES
OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// 101 PROTOCOL
(8304 entries)
SORT BY: NAME// INTERNAL(CREATOR)=xxxx
WITHIN INTERNAL(CREATOR)=36007, SORT BY:
FIRST PRINT FIELD: NAME
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): PROTOCOL LIST//
START AT PAGE: 1//
DEVICE: INCOMING TELNET Right Margin: 80//
...SORRY, I'M WORKING AS FAST AS I CAN...
PROTOCOL LIST
MAR
9,2005 19:58
PAGE 1
NAME
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
CSL_AR_02_EV_GET_FUND
CSL_AR_02_SU_GET_FUND
etc.
--- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm lost...
Kevin
--- George Timson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thom says:
|
| >Just a thought: I believe you could create a
cross-reference that would
| >all you to search on this field, after all.
| >--- "Holloway, Thomas (EDS)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
Yes, but SEARCH does not affect how the file is
traversed. SORT tells
FileMan how to go thru the file. Many times
users
can find everything they
really need by SORTING. As in
SORT BY: INTERNAL(ENTERED BY)=44
--George Timson
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