Well, maybe, but without them your Linux box is close to being a usless
hunk of metal.

Now, things like Gnome, KDE, etc., THAT is frosting on the cake (which
is not necessarily a bad thing).

--- "LD \"Gus\" Landis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   Re: Linux
>   Not too strong, IMO. Anything, no, *everything* outside of the
> kernel is
>   "frosting on the cake".
> 
>   What you are talking about is what is necessary for a POSIX
> environmnet,
>   (e.g. sh, bash, mv, cp, tar, etc).
> 
>   These are not Linux at all.
> 
>   They are (usually) part of a "Linux distribution" as they are part
> of an
>   "AIX distribution", "OS X distribution", "FreeBSD distribution",
> etc,
>   etc, and so forth.
> 
>   Linux is "just a kernel".  Debian, Knoppix, Red Hat and SuSE, etc
> are 
>   merely software distributions that happen to use the Linux kernel
> between
>   the hardware and the execution environment.
> 
> Cheers,
>   --ldl
> 
> On 5/26/05, Greg Woodhouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, that might be a LITTLE strong. For example, X11 isn't party
> of
> > the kernel, nor is bash, little things like mv, cp, tar, etc., etc.
> > (much less libraries like libc). Does that mean that these things
> are
> > all "icing on the cake"?
> > 
> > --- Crawford Rainwater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > The only difference of doing RedHat and/or SuSE vs. Debian or
> (insert
> > > another non-commercial distribution name here) is the commercial
> > > enterprise support offered.  As Mark said, Linux is the kernel,
> the
> > > kernel is Linux.  Distributions are the "icing on top of the
> cake" in
> > > my
> > > honest opinion.
> > >
> > > With that said, there are quite a few folks on the HHs list that
> have
> > > tried Debian and RedHat variants.  Depending on the end game
> plan,
> > > most
> > > will work for small and large implementations quite well.  It is
> if
> > > you
> > > have the Linux system administrator(s) to handle said
> implementation
> > > that becomes the question.
> > >
> > > FWIW.
> > >
> > > --- Crawford
> > > --
> > > The Linux ETC Company
> > > 368 South McCaslin Boulevard
> > > P.M.B. 146
> > > Louisville, CO 80027 USA
> > > +1 (303) 604-2550 (voice)
> > > +1 (866) 604-2550 (toll free within the US)
> > > +1 (303) 664-0036 (fax)
> > > http://www.linux-etc.com
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his
> forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli
> > ====
> > Greg Woodhouse
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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