In addition, they have professional trolls on every important mailing list
to defend them and confuse fact with fiction.

Ruben


On Mon, Jun 13, 2005 at 05:48:43PM -0400, David Sommers wrote:
> People that express strong anti-Microsoft or anti-Bill always strike a
> nerve with me.
> 
> I can understand that, as a user, a product may not work as advertised
> or as you intended but this is the exact FUD you knock MS for.
> 
> Fear Uncertainty and Doubt.  The Microsoft today isn't the same
> Microsoft 5 years ago or 10 years ago.  I think Windows 95 was "ok" and
> Windows XP is much better and I'm hoping Longhorn is better than that.
> I don't run Linux 2.4 anymore and I doubt many of you have a 1.x flavor
> sitting around either.  Live and learn.
> 
> Do you FUD a MS product before ever installing it?  A great example is a
> recent posting on Slashdot about Microsoft's latest product (in beta),
> Acrylic.
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/11/1851231&tid=152&tid=109&tid=
> 185
> 
> The poster immediately bashes Microsoft and says: "Microsoft should be
> prepared to eat another few million in lost development funds".  If,
> however, you start to read the comments - the unbiased users immediately
> point out that the user never really understood the product to begin
> with.
> 
> Hey - I have a FC3 laptop to my left and my Powerbook to my right but
> I'm writing to you on my XP box.  They all work.
> 
> I find that Apple and Linux users normally utilize FUD more than any
> marketing engine out there. 
> 
> And I don't mean to start a war because you don't have to "correct me"
> on my own personal views and opinions.
> 
> Couple great blog posts by one of those evil worker bees in the shrine
> of Bill.
> http://neopoleon.com/blog/posts/13591.aspx
>       Quote: "Some of us come in peace, damn it."
> http://neopoleon.com/blog/posts/13551.aspx
>       Quote: "I also agree about IE and standards. I'd love to see us
> put out a kick-ass browser that conforms to standards."
> 
> (And no - I don't hold stock in MS.)
> 
> Be fair - be calm - be nice.
> 
> /David.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg
> Woodhouse
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 1:56 PM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
> 
> The way things are going, I'm beginning to wish every message
> containint the word "Microsoft" (or any of its variations) was sent on
> to the moderator for approval. I know Microsoft isn't terribly popular
> around here, but do we need to be so shrill?
> 
> --- "Richard G. DAVIS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Lloyd,
> > 
> > Nothing!  Absolutely nothing to do with the subject heading.
> > 
> > Isn't language wonderful?!  Semantic drift in action.  Now 'missing
> > apps'
> > has a much broader meaning.  (sic)
> > 
> > And, judging by the volume of posts to this subject, 'missing apps'
> > is a
> > really interesting topic.  ????......
> > 
> > I am amused that the comments I made earlier in this thread are
> > directly
> > reflected in the discussion that has followed.  Recursion in action.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Richard.
> > 
> > > From: "Lloyd Milligan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Organization: Sea Island Systems, Inc.
> > > Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 13:11:18 -0400
> > > To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] == VistaWeb Missing Apps ==
> > > 
> > > What does this "discussion" have to do with VistA or with the
> > specific
> > > subject of this post "VistaWeb Missing Apps"?
> > > 
> > > Lloyd
> > > 
> > 
> > ...
> > ....
> > .....
> > 
> > 
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