There are newer components that support all the way up to Delphi 7 on the ftp site, and there are some nice help files with them. I think it is in the RPC Broker Development Kit . I think the components are in XWB1_1P40PG.exe under RPC Broker in the packages. And then there are the Fileman Delphi Components.
On Tuesday 26 July 2005 10:13 pm, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: > It's in the VDL, see > > http://www.va.gov/vdl/Infrastructure.asp?appID=6 > > === > Gregory Woodhouse > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his > forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli > > On Jul 26, 2005, at 3:47 PM, James Gray wrote: > > Is there any documentation? What do you have to have to use these > > components? > > > > Jim Gray > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Woodhouse" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 4:37 PM > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Roll/Scroll changes for Fileman > > > >> You do know about the Fileman Delphi vcomponents, don't you? > >> Obviously, > >> they're of no use if you're not using Delphi, but VistA does > >> include a > >> set of controls analogous to Delphi'sa data controls for relational > >> DBMSs (How do you pronounce that?) > >> > >> --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Rusty, > >>> > >>> Just for the record, I think a screenman-like > >>> interface for editing fields would be great. > >>> Especially if it was a dynamic form. Unless you write > >>> it, though. I don't see it happening. > >>> > >>> Kevin > >>> > >>> --- TMaynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> > Thanks once again ...another object shortcut that I > >>> > havent seen in the HTML > >>> > manuals(beginning,advanced,or programmer). > >>> > The presentation of this array ^?? is essentially > >>> > what I referred in an > >>> > earlier post: > >>> > "Since Fileman has routines to parse and present > >>> > fieldnames in roll/scroll > >>> > dialogs,it would be a treat to receive that same > >>> > info on a silver platter" > >>> > (the silver platter being a default Screenman-like > >>> > form that could be toggled to > >>> > various sortings) > >>> > I am ruminating on this feature for omnibus > >>> > access, while Thom H. has placed > >>> > that in perspective with the greater use of > >>> > production templates. I suppose > >>> > Fileman in management and learning provokes some of > >>> > my sort of newcomer > >>> > reactions ...so perhaps I need to move attention > >>> > over to Screenman and (leaving > >>> > input) I have hardly scratched the surface of > >>> > reporting tools. > >>> > > >>> > Rusty Maynard > >>> > > >>> > Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > >>> > > BTW, if you type "^??" at any prompt where you > >>> > > >>> > have multiple fields > >>> > > >>> > > available to be edited, FileMan will echo to you a > >>> > > >>> > list of the field choices > >>> > > >>> > > by field number as well as name (e.g. you can type > >>> > > >>> > "^.01" to go back to the > >>> > > >>> > > primary field in a record, or "^NAME" (if the > >>> > > >>> > field is called "NAME")). > >>> > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > On Behalf Of Holloway, > >>> > > >>> > > Thomas (EDS) > >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:09 PM > >>> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > >>> > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Roll/Scroll > >>> > > >>> > changes for Fileman > >>> > > >>> > > Rusty said: "When using a default "All Fields" > >>> > > >>> > edit, your are tacitly saying > >>> > > >>> > > ...let the > >>> > > iteration of every next field be my picklist > >>> > > >>> > ...and onward." > >>> > > >>> > > Rusty, > >>> > > While this is true, you should almost never be > >>> > > >>> > doing this in a production > >>> > > >>> > > environment. You should use existing options for > >>> > > >>> > 99.5% of your data entry > >>> > > >>> > > needs. The routines and Input Templates that have > >>> > > >>> > been prepared for each > >>> > > >>> > > package are designed with built-in business and > >>> > > >>> > database rules that might be > >>> > > >>> > > violated if using FM in "All Fields" mode. Once > >>> > > >>> > you are familiar with a > >>> > > >>> > > given application and the relationship between all > >>> > > >>> > affected files and > >>> > > >>> > > fields, you can create your own Input Templates > >>> > > >>> > and link them to Options > >>> > > >>> > > that you create. > >>> > > > >>> > > Thom H. > >>> > > > >>> > > -----Original Message----- > >>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > >>> > On Behalf Of TMaynard > >>> > > >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:57 PM > >>> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > >>> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Roll/Scroll > >>> > > >>> > changes for Fileman > >>> > > >>> > > Thanks for this tip Cameron. > >>> > > Editing in Fileman without it is like a mailman > >>> > > >>> > whose vehicle has no reverse > >>> > > >>> > > gear. When using a default "All Fields" edit, your > >>> > > >>> > are tacitly saying ...let > >>> > > >>> > > the > >>> > > iteration of every next field be my picklist > >>> > > >>> > ...and onward. > >>> > > >>> > > (of course mailmen are skilled at stopping > >>> > > >>> > correctly at each mailbox,rarely > >>> > > >>> > > need > >>> > > reverse, and they even presort so their mail is > >>> > > >>> > delivered in the > >>> > > >>> > > proverbial > >>> > > sequence) I can understand how staff using well > >>> > > >>> > known menus can be very > >>> > > >>> > > swift > >>> > > with roll/scroll being like a mailman who knows > >>> > > >>> > the routes. > >>> > > >>> > > The diversity of newcomers to OpenVista or > >>> > > >>> > VistaOffice are the reason > >>> > > >>> > > for > >>> > > the questions of my previous posts on this thread. > >>> > > >>> > What are the new > >>> > > >>> > > ergonomic > >>> > > tools for settings where Vista is used by staff > >>> > > >>> > who are traversing many > >>> > > >>> > > menus > >>> > > as newcomers or multitasking? It seems to me that > >>> > > >>> > these new installations in > >>> > > >>> > > various private settings will have the double task > >>> > > >>> > of learning what's there > >>> > > >>> > > and > >>> > > devising their own menus to reflect their > >>> > > >>> > patterns. > >>> > > >>> > > If Fileman is the engine for all this > >>> > > >>> > adaptation, then this seems to beg > >>> > > >>> > > for > >>> > > new features to Fileman, regardless of which > >>> > > >>> > menus and files are modified > >>> > > >>> > > or > >>> > > created. ( I don't think everything needs a rich > >>> > > >>> > GUi like CPRS). > >>> > > >>> > > I am far from having proficiency in using > >>> > > >>> > what's already there, but I > >>> > > >>> > > still > >>> > > have to ask what is on the horizon to be added? > >>> > > > >>> > > Rusty Maynard > >>> > > > >>> > > Cameron Schlehuber wrote: > >>> > >>Rusty, you state: "and either way there is no > >>> > > >>> > option to backup (or > >>> > > >>> > > re-edit) > >>> > > > >>> > >>any one of the fields, as each field must be > >>> > > >>> > edited in sequence" > >>> > > >>> > >>Actually, you can "jump" to any field by > >>> > > >>> > pre-pending the circumflex "^" in > >>> > > >>> > >>front of the field name (or first part of the > >>> > > >>> > name) you wish to jump to > >>> > > >>> > > ... > >>> > > > >>> > >>backwards or forwards. (So long as the "NO^" flag > >>> > > >>> > hasn't been set by the > >>> > > >>> > >>programmer.) > >>> > >> > >>> > >>Cameron Schlehuber > >>> > >> > >>> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>> > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> >> > >>> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> > > >>> > On Behalf Of > >>> > > >>> > > TMaynard > >>> > > > >>> > >>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:16 PM > >>> > >>To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > >>> > >>Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Roll/Scroll > >>> > > >>> > changes for Fileman > >>> > > >>> > >>Mouse navigation would be handy for working with > >>> > > >>> > large and crowded > >>> > > >>> > > Screenman > >>> > > > >>> > >>templates which is all well and good, for when a > >>> > > >>> > form has been composed > >>> > > >>> > > for > >>> > > > >>> > >>a > >>> > >>frequently used view of data input or display. > >>> > >> But I don't understand why Fileman doesnt have a > >>> > > >>> > default Screenman-like > >>> > > >>> > >>form > >>> > >>for *every* dialog in which Fileman awaits > >>> > > >>> > multiple input responses. > >>> > > >>> > >> Whether editing or inquiring into selected > >>> > > >>> > fields,only the most > >>> > > >>> > > familiar > >>> > > > >>> > >>user > >>> > >>can rattle off a long list of fields for > >>> > > >>> > editing.Most have to query "?" to > >>> > > >>> > >>review the list of fields,then up arrow "^" to > >>> > > >>> > enter them manually at the > >>> > > >>> > >>prompt. Editing more than a dozen fields, it is > >>> > > >>> > almost as easy to elect to > >>> > > >>> > >>edit > >>> > >>> === message truncated === > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ____________________________________________________ > >>> Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > >>> http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>> SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration > >>> Strategies > >>> from IBM. Find simple to follow Roadmaps, straightforward articles, > >>> informative Webcasts and more! 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