There are newer components that support all the way up to Delphi 7 on the ftp 
site, and there are some nice help files with them.  I think it is in the RPC 
Broker Development Kit .  I think the components are in XWB1_1P40PG.exe under 
RPC Broker in the packages.  And then there are the Fileman Delphi 
Components.

On Tuesday 26 July 2005 10:13 pm, Gregory Woodhouse wrote:
> It's in the VDL, see
>
> http://www.va.gov/vdl/Infrastructure.asp?appID=6
>
> ===
> Gregory Woodhouse
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his
> forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli
>
> On Jul 26, 2005, at 3:47 PM, James Gray wrote:
> > Is there any documentation?  What do you have to have to use these
> > components?
> >
> > Jim Gray
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Woodhouse"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 4:37 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Roll/Scroll changes for Fileman
> >
> >> You do know about the Fileman Delphi vcomponents, don't you?
> >> Obviously,
> >> they're of no use if you're not using Delphi, but VistA does
> >> include a
> >> set of controls analogous to Delphi'sa data controls for relational
> >> DBMSs (How do you pronounce that?)
> >>
> >> --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> Rusty,
> >>>
> >>> Just for the record, I think a screenman-like
> >>> interface for editing fields would be great.
> >>> Especially if it was a dynamic form.  Unless you write
> >>> it, though.  I don't see it happening.
> >>>
> >>> Kevin
> >>>
> >>> --- TMaynard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> > Thanks once again ...another object shortcut that I
> >>> > havent seen in the HTML
> >>> > manuals(beginning,advanced,or programmer).
> >>> >   The presentation of this array ^?? is essentially
> >>> > what I referred in an
> >>> > earlier post:
> >>> > "Since Fileman has routines to parse and present
> >>> > fieldnames in roll/scroll
> >>> > dialogs,it would be a treat to receive that same
> >>> > info on a silver platter"
> >>> > (the silver platter being a default Screenman-like
> >>> > form that could be toggled to
> >>> >   various sortings)
> >>> >     I am ruminating on this feature for omnibus
> >>> > access, while Thom H. has placed
> >>> > that in perspective with the greater use of
> >>> > production templates. I suppose
> >>> > Fileman in management and learning provokes some of
> >>> > my sort of newcomer
> >>> > reactions ...so perhaps I need to move attention
> >>> > over to Screenman and (leaving
> >>> > input) I have hardly scratched the surface of
> >>> > reporting tools.
> >>> >
> >>> > Rusty Maynard
> >>> >
> >>> > Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> >>> > > BTW, if you type "^??" at any prompt where you
> >>> >
> >>> > have multiple fields
> >>> >
> >>> > > available to be edited, FileMan will echo to you a
> >>> >
> >>> > list of the field choices
> >>> >
> >>> > > by field number as well as name (e.g. you can type
> >>> >
> >>> > "^.01" to go back to the
> >>> >
> >>> > > primary field in a record, or "^NAME" (if the
> >>> >
> >>> > field is called "NAME")).
> >>> >
> >>> > > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> > On Behalf Of Holloway,
> >>> >
> >>> > > Thomas (EDS)
> >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:09 PM
> >>> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> > > Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Roll/Scroll
> >>> >
> >>> > changes for Fileman
> >>> >
> >>> > > Rusty said: "When using a default "All Fields"
> >>> >
> >>> > edit, your are tacitly saying
> >>> >
> >>> > > ...let the
> >>> > >   iteration of every next field be my picklist
> >>> >
> >>> > ...and onward."
> >>> >
> >>> > > Rusty,
> >>> > >    While this is true, you should almost never be
> >>> >
> >>> > doing this in a production
> >>> >
> >>> > > environment.  You should use existing options for
> >>> >
> >>> > 99.5% of your data entry
> >>> >
> >>> > > needs.  The routines and Input Templates that have
> >>> >
> >>> > been prepared for each
> >>> >
> >>> > > package are designed with built-in business and
> >>> >
> >>> > database rules that might be
> >>> >
> >>> > > violated if using FM in "All Fields" mode.  Once
> >>> >
> >>> > you are familiar with a
> >>> >
> >>> > > given application and the relationship between all
> >>> >
> >>> > affected files and
> >>> >
> >>> > > fields, you can create your own Input Templates
> >>> >
> >>> > and link them to Options
> >>> >
> >>> > > that you create.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thom H.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> > On Behalf Of TMaynard
> >>> >
> >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 3:57 PM
> >>> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Roll/Scroll
> >>> >
> >>> > changes for Fileman
> >>> >
> >>> > > Thanks for this tip Cameron.
> >>> > > Editing in Fileman without it is like a mailman
> >>> >
> >>> > whose vehicle has no reverse
> >>> >
> >>> > > gear. When using a default "All Fields" edit, your
> >>> >
> >>> > are tacitly saying ...let
> >>> >
> >>> > > the
> >>> > >   iteration of every next field be my picklist
> >>> >
> >>> > ...and onward.
> >>> >
> >>> > > (of course mailmen are skilled at stopping
> >>> >
> >>> > correctly at each mailbox,rarely
> >>> >
> >>> > > need
> >>> > >   reverse, and they even presort so their mail is
> >>> >
> >>> > delivered in the
> >>> >
> >>> > > proverbial
> >>> > > sequence)  I can understand how staff using well
> >>> >
> >>> > known menus can be very
> >>> >
> >>> > > swift
> >>> > > with roll/scroll being like a mailman who knows
> >>> >
> >>> > the routes.
> >>> >
> >>> > >    The diversity of newcomers to OpenVista or
> >>> >
> >>> > VistaOffice  are the reason
> >>> >
> >>> > > for
> >>> > > the questions of my previous posts on this thread.
> >>> >
> >>> > What are the new
> >>> >
> >>> > > ergonomic
> >>> > > tools for settings where Vista  is used by staff
> >>> >
> >>> > who are traversing many
> >>> >
> >>> > > menus
> >>> > > as newcomers or multitasking? It seems to me that
> >>> >
> >>> > these new installations in
> >>> >
> >>> > > various private settings will have the double task
> >>> >
> >>> > of learning what's there
> >>> >
> >>> > > and
> >>> > > devising their own menus to reflect their
> >>> >
> >>> > patterns.
> >>> >
> >>> > >    If Fileman is the engine for  all this
> >>> >
> >>> > adaptation, then this seems to beg
> >>> >
> >>> > > for
> >>> > > new features to Fileman,  regardless of which
> >>> >
> >>> > menus and files are modified
> >>> >
> >>> > > or
> >>> > > created. ( I don't think everything needs a rich
> >>> >
> >>> > GUi like CPRS).
> >>> >
> >>> > >    I am far from having proficiency in using
> >>> >
> >>> > what's already there, but I
> >>> >
> >>> > > still
> >>> > > have to ask what is on the horizon to be added?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Rusty Maynard
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> >>> > >>Rusty, you state:  "and either way there is no
> >>> >
> >>> > option to backup (or
> >>> >
> >>> > > re-edit)
> >>> > >
> >>> > >>any one of the fields, as each field must be
> >>> >
> >>> > edited in sequence"
> >>> >
> >>> > >>Actually, you can "jump" to any field by
> >>> >
> >>> > pre-pending the circumflex "^" in
> >>> >
> >>> > >>front of the field name (or first part of the
> >>> >
> >>> > name) you wish to jump to
> >>> >
> >>> > > ...
> >>> > >
> >>> > >>backwards or forwards.  (So long as the "NO^" flag
> >>> >
> >>> > hasn't been set by the
> >>> >
> >>> > >>programmer.)
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>Cameron Schlehuber
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>-----Original Message-----
> >>> > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >>
> >>> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >
> >>> > On Behalf Of
> >>> >
> >>> > > TMaynard
> >>> > >
> >>> > >>Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:16 PM
> >>> > >>To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> >>> > >>Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Roll/Scroll
> >>> >
> >>> > changes for Fileman
> >>> >
> >>> > >>Mouse navigation would be handy for working with
> >>> >
> >>> > large and crowded
> >>> >
> >>> > > Screenman
> >>> > >
> >>> > >>templates which is all well and good, for when a
> >>> >
> >>> > form has been composed
> >>> >
> >>> > > for
> >>> > >
> >>> > >>a
> >>> > >>frequently used view of data input or display.
> >>> > >>  But I don't understand why Fileman doesnt have a
> >>> >
> >>> > default Screenman-like
> >>> >
> >>> > >>form
> >>> > >>for *every* dialog in which Fileman awaits
> >>> >
> >>> > multiple input responses.
> >>> >
> >>> > >>   Whether editing or inquiring into selected
> >>> >
> >>> > fields,only the most
> >>> >
> >>> > > familiar
> >>> > >
> >>> > >>user
> >>> > >>can rattle off a long list of fields for
> >>> >
> >>> > editing.Most have to query "?" to
> >>> >
> >>> > >>review the list of fields,then up arrow "^" to
> >>> >
> >>> > enter them manually at the
> >>> >
> >>> > >>prompt. Editing more than a dozen fields, it is
> >>> >
> >>> > almost as easy to elect to
> >>> >
> >>> > >>edit
> >>>
> >>> === message truncated ===
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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