Oracle, to the best of my understanding, uses the model you describe
(OS level security), but as an example, MySQL does not. There's
something to be said for it, too: when I create a root user in MySQL, I
don't necessarily want that user to log in (to Unix) as root.

--- "K.S. Bhaskar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Comments below.  I know that the VA doesn't have separate user ids
> for
> each user at the operating system level, but I don't know why. 
> [Anyone
> know?]
> 
> In any case, best security practices today are not to have shared
> user
> ids, and in the context of medical practices which may not have the
> same
> level of physical access control as a VA facility, I would suggest
> stronger access controls.
> 
> -- Bhaskar
> 
> On Fri, 2005-07-29 at 09:56 -0500, Mike Lieman wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 7/29/05, K.S. Bhaskar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >         Mike --
> >         
> >         I looked at the document.  There's no need to create a
> >         separate gtm
> >         user.  Each user can just login with his/her own user id.
> > 
> > I thought that through, and decided I wanted the GT.M files owned
> by a
> > user other than root.  'oracle' owns the oracle files, 'mysql' own
> the
> > mysql files, 'qmail' owns the qmail files.
> 
> [KSB] My recommendation is to create a user and a group for each
> VistA
> instance, i.e., if you have production instances for St. Mungo's
> Hospital and the Azkaban Infirmary on your server, then create two
> groups, azkaban and stmungos, and a user azkaban in the azkaban group
> and a user stmungos in the stmungos group.  These users will own the
> database and journal files as well as the directories they are in,
> and
> processes with these userids will be used for operations (e.g.,
> backup)
> but not normal VistA usage.  As a further security precaution, you
> can
> permit someone to su to them, but prevent anyone logging in as users
> azkaban or stmungos.  Give each VistA user his/her own userid,
> assigned
> to the group where s/he practices.  Special consultants affiliated
> with
> both institutions can belong to both groups.
> 
> The database files, journal files, and directories would have
> permissions set to be user and group writable, but neither readable
> nor
> writable by anyone else.
> 
> Shared globals that are not normally updated, e.g., the National Drug
> formulary, would be in a separate directory that is world readable,
> but
> writable by none.
> > 
> > I'll *likely* have a single  VistA user, since VistA itself has a
> very
> > robust user maintenance/signon model. ( And I expect most usage to
> be
> > with the Windows client... ).
> > 
> > 
> > It may be helpful if you download the GT.M Acculturation live CD
> from
> >         http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm and work
> through
> >         the
> >         examples.
> > 
> > Thanks for the link!  I'll try to get to it over the weekend, but
> no
> > promises!
> 
> 
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