Joseph is partially correct. In that many of the members of the working group were also some of the last members of the MUMPS Development Committee (MDC is still sleeping), he is correct. While many of those in the working group are also on the board or are officers is merely a coindicence. The goals of the working group should not be and are not directly binding on WorldVistA. There were members of the working group who are not associated with WorldVistA. There are memebers of the board of WorldVistA who have nothing to do with the working group. While I am sure that all of the working group would like to get back to the OO model, there is still much to be done with VistA. VistA and MUMPS need to exist for the model the working group was working with to be built and tested. This work will be picked up again, but there are only so many hours and the model needs to have MUMPS available.
The OO model is not part of the WorldVistA effort right now, and should wait for the critical mass for VistA to catch and move forward before the members of the working group start turning their attentions back to the OO model. Both are moving targets, and it is easier if people who understand both models progress with one to further its development until it is time to push the other model forward. Kevin, the work you are doing is not a waste. It is bringing you up to speed on some of the ground we have already covered. By the way, Kevin, have you looked at ESI-Objects? Best wishes; Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Dal Molin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 5:41 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Object Oriented(OO) in Mumps > ...for clarification ... the "we" Chris is referring to was the MUMPS > Development Committee. > > Joseph > > Chris Richardson wrote: > > Kevin; > > > > We were working this technology into a new language which woul work with > > MUMPS and other languages equally well. but have more true object technology > > involved. We froze this effort until we could get the VistA established in > > the rest of the world before we go back to the new language model. > > > > Best wishes; Chris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:25 PM > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Object Oriented(OO) in Mumps > > > > > > Chris, > > > > Excellent. But I am seeing what can be done without changing the > > language definition. It might get done quicker that way ;-\ > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > On 12/1/05, Chris Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Kevin; > >> > >> Funny you should ask.... WorldVistA was started by those of us who > > > > were > > > >>part of the Object Oriented Working Group of a Task Group, of a > > > > subcommittee > > > >>of the MUMPS Development Committee. This working group long out lived (or > >>was at least active) the MDC's activity. You might want to take a look at > >>the Object Oriented Check List X3H7. We have lots of plans for this > >>technology. > >> > >> Best wishes; Chris > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Kevin Toppenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>To: "Hardhats Sourceforge" <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net> > >>Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 8:51 PM > >>Subject: [Hardhats-members] Object Oriented(OO) in Mumps > >> > >> > >>I am still interested if the array structures that are intrinsic to M > >>could be leveraged to achieve object oriented code. > >> > >>Here is some working code have written around a simple OO framework: > >> > > > > http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Object_Oriented_Progr > > > >>amming_with_M > >> > >>The sample program doesn't really show much of the OO abilities. I was > >>mostly worknig on getting the execution of member functions to work. > >>But each object has its own variable set and share common methods. > >> > >>Let me know what you all think. > >> > >>("why?" --> "because!") > >> > >>Kevin > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > > > > files > > > >>for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > >>searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > >>http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37&alloc_id865&op=ick > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Hardhats-members mailing list > >>Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > >>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log > > > > files > > > >>for problems? 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