It was while working for Shared Medical Systems that I learned the MUMPS language (1978). It amazed me that the MUMPS side of the house had a mean time to repair of about 15 minutes for a remote site. Their Cobol side of the house was lucky to get 72 hour turn around. Changes on the MUMPS side of the house were quick and painless (no evident recompile and link). The economies of scale are very evident.
The Department of Defense has their Composite Health Care System (CHCS I) which was developed from the VA's DHCP (the early name for VistA. In the compute-off that went into the DoD's effort to use the VA code base, there were 4 vendors involved. Only one vendor needed to use the VA code base (SAIC). Two of the 4 vendors dropped out after spending the $25 Million allocated for building an entry into the compute-off. It was down to two vendors, SAIC and MacDonnel-Douglas doing a more conventional approach. The MacDac entry was 67% percent functionality and their bid was $2.6 Billion. The SAIC entry into the competition was 98% functionality and the bid was $1.01 Billion. In less than the10 years of the runofthecontrat, the project was fully operational and brought in on time and on budget. MUMPS is an easy language to learn, and it has been easier to train knowledge-area specialists to program in MUMPS than to try to capture the requirements and have trained programmers do the work in abstraction. The code becomes the medium for the specification. VistA is a model which helps to standardize these requirements (at least a bit) while providing a consistant interface to the user and the application. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bhaskar, KS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 7:34 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] New Developers, MUMPS language syntax, etal.... > On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 20:48 -0600, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: > > Stephen, > > > > Rather than point someone to a discussion forum ...I would point > > your > > customers to the many vendors that employ MUMPS today in their > > applications....Epic, Meditech, Quadramed, Eclipsys, Cerner, > > McKesson/HBOC (or whatever they go by today), IDX, Keane etc. Kaiser > > Permanante is investing a huge amount of money in implementing > > Epic....close to a billion if memory serves me well. > > > > Can someone list major health applications that don't use > > MUMPS....it's > > been a while since I looked... > > [KSB] Actually, I think Cerner is the exception in being Oracle based > rather than MUMPS based, although they have acquired companies that have > MUMPS based systems. Also, don't forget Siemens (what used to be Shared > Medical Systems) - another MUMPS based system. > > -- Bhaskar > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click > _______________________________________________ > Hardhats-members mailing list > Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members > > ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click _______________________________________________ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
