Kevin,

Thanks for the follow-up.
 
"My problem was that I didn't have a value stored for the DIC {DIC} field.
The screenman instructions give misleading advice, and I had missed that
that particular field was not optional."

Agree the manual is sort of brief and sometimes misleading. Then not all
ScreenMan options require DIC. For instance, consider this menu created in
"SCREEN BASED OPTION EDITOR - XQOPED. 

NUMBER: 324                             NAME: DDS SCREEN MENU
  MENU TEXT: ScreenMan                  TYPE: menu
  CREATOR: PEDIGO,THURMAN L         LOCK: XUSCREENMAN
  DELEGABLE: YES                        E ACTION PRESENT: YES
 DESCRIPTION:   Use this option to view the filegram in filegram format.
ITEM: DDS EDIT/CREATE A FORM            SYNONYM: 1
  DISPLAY ORDER: 1
ITEM: DDS RUN A FORM                    SYNONYM: 2

I got my most effective training was using the very option with which
ScreenMan creates the ScreenMan forms - DDS EDIT/CREATE A FORM. That form
covers a lot of the ScreenMan capabilities and tricks. Look especially at
the first page with curser under "Type" to see all the options available.
Far more than you find in the manual. So if you use the XQOPED to edit the
DDS EDIT/CREATE A FORM you get a different perspective of what the form
does. 

Thanks,

thurman



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 7:15 AM
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Screenman problems.
> 
> Thurman,
> 
> Thank you for your reply.  My problem was that I didn't have a value
> stored for the DIC {DIC} field.  The screenman instructions give
> misleading advice, and I had missed that that particular field was not
> optional.
> 
> "I imagine you are way past what I do with the ScreenMan, " ...
> 
> Not at all, I am only on my second screenman form created.  I just use
> it as an interactive way for end users to edit some fields.
> 
> I think that Screenman is a pretty cool tool, but to me it could
> benefit from some polishing.
> 
> Thanks again
> Kevin
> 
> 
> On 2/25/06, Thurman Pedigo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm not sure I understand the problem here. Have you tried:
> > Screen-based Option Editor [XQOPED]
> > I use this option to convert ScreenMan forms to actionable options.
> Below is
> > an example of an option created with  XQOPED:
> >
> > NAME: MAW ARPOST                        MENU TEXT: Post Daily Charges
> >   TYPE: ScreenMan                       CREATOR: PEDIGO,T L
> >   DELEGABLE: YES                        E ACTION PRESENT: YES
> >   X ACTION PRESENT: YES                 HEADER PRESENT?: YES
> >   EXIT ACTION: W @IOF                   ENTRY ACTION: W @IOF
> >   HEADER: D ^MMCHEAD                    DIC {DIC}: DIZ(9999130,
> >   DIC(0): AELMQ                         DR{DDS}: [MAWPAYSCRN]
> >   DDSFILE: 9999130                      DDSPAGE: 1
> >   UPPERCASE MENU TEXT: POST DAILY CHARGES
> >
> >
> > I imagine you are way past what I do with the ScreenMan, but thought I
> would
> > share a low-level use of the tool. I use ScreenMan extensively - without
> > sophistication - throughout the menu system and like it a lot. I haven't
> > tried any  sophisticated programming, though ScreenMan seems to handle
> my
> > needs pretty well. The really nice thing about ScreenMan is one can
> create
> > some pretty powerful edit and dissplay screens in a very short period of
> > time. I must admit it doesn't match up to the templates of VistA,
> however,
> > for some quick editing "on the fly" its hard to beat.
> >
> > I don't come even close to using the full power of the tool and still
> get a
> > lot of performance. Hope this helps.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > thurman
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse
> > > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 12:15 PM
> > > To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
> > > Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Screenman problems.
> > >
> > > --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lloyd,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your response.  I tried again, and it now works by
> filling
> > > > in the file number as a number (22711)
> > >
> > > Have you considered just setting up a run routine option that invokes
> > > Screenman with D ^DDS?
> > >
> > > ===
> > > Gregory Woodhouse  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > "All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed.
> > > Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as
> > > being self-evident."
> > > --Arthur Schopenhauer
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