Even in the 90nm configuration, the Intel is still significantly hotter (significantly so).
If you're comparing, it's somewhat difficult; AMD has two different 90 nm chips on the market.. the newest being Venice. Venice offers SSE3, which is new to the AMD family, and a newer memory controller, it basically is coming in to replace the Newcastle core. Now, here's the thing, so far, in all our tests, the SS3 function doesn't make a giant bang in all applications (though it does in a few), but it keeps AMD within 2-4% of DiVX encoding and basically dead on with encoding Nero MP4, which is all I care about. But more then that, the Venice runs so damn cool it's freakish, and it makes overclocking with even standard fans a cinch.. The 3800+ Venice core, right now, is one hell of a bang/buck. Below that I'd put a 3500+ Venice, then the P4 (right now). Venice 3800 - $386 Intel 660 comparable: $620. So, a little more then $80. For that kind of price difference.. shew. The 650, which would be closest comparable (about $80) is not a direct compare to the 3800+ Venice, because in multiple areas (outside of encoding, where it is neck & neck) it gets stomped. CW -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rls Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:43 PM To: 'Brian Weeden'; 'The Hardware List' Subject: [H] CPU Intel 6xx series v. AMD 939 (3 gig plus) --- Note please comment if you have had hands on experience with both of these CPU's 1 - AMD 939 with 90 nano design And 2 - Intel 6xx with 90 nano design Both cpu's can operate in an 64-bit environement Both cpu's are designed to run 'cooler' The AMD is cheaper clock v clock The Intel employs a 2 mg cache to offset the lack of significant increased clock speeds. So the question - What was your overall impression of both systems? Did the Intel display a clear superiority in video creation - and if the video cards were the same, how about overall video performance. The Intel option is going to cost me about 70-80 more and I want to go that direction as that motherboard has the overall features I want. I would feel better about making the purchase if the Intel was faster in important areas.