Bah, for MP3's only I'd look into Sansa.

For video use the Creative Zen Vision W is worth it
for screen alone 
even if it is mired in Microsoft's MTP. There is also
Archos, Wolverine 
if you need heavy storage & bigger screen than "iPod +
video".



Joe User wrote:
> Think I am going to go with the 80GB Black refurbed
iPod.
> 
> Now I have to decide if the Apple Care +1yr warranty
for 60 is
> worthwhile.
> 


 
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