Hayes, I have followed your thread now for the past 3 years and you get my vote too! Even though I do not even yet use any of the discussed memory. Hell, I just finished getting what amounts to prehistoric spec memory for two of my old PCs (thankfully still available!). Time for the RAM-Wars to take a break! Let's let everything else catch up......(or try to)..... :)
Best,
Duncan

At 13:41 03/10/2008 -0400, you wrote:

This dick swinging between memory manufacturers concerning who has the fastest memory, stability be damned, has got to stop.

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/03/10/cebit_fastest_memory_earth/


CeBIT 2008: The Fastest Memory on Earth

Every year, manufacturer of memory modules fight for the fastest module crown. Corsair wins, once again, this year's title by reaching 2 133 MHz or only 33 MHz more than OCZ, but at aggressive timings: 8-8-8-24. The equivalent in DDR1 would hypothetically be a module running at 533 MHz CAS 2, which may be more meaningful. Running on an NVIDIA reference motherboard built on a 790i chipset, this accomplishment requires a voltage of 2.1 V. The machine crashed when we came on the booth and had to reboot before we could launch CPU-Z and verify the value.

Let's note that the kit isn't available in retail yet, but should be at the end of the month. It'll only available with CAS 9 timings though, which seems to indicate that the module isn't really stable. Of course, there aren't any prices as usual on Corsair's high end.


Ok, so Corsair has DDR3 memory that runs fast....provided you over-volt it from 1.5v to 2.1v and reboot your PC every now and then because it's unstable garbage. Great! Let's charge $400 a DIMM and frag on!

Mainstream tech press is now giving these overclocked turds a pass with sensational article titles hinting that the memory is indeed the fastest on earth when in fact it's NOT, because the DIMM FAILED at the speed they bragged about.

Call me a pedant (I prefer orthodox), but the "fastest memory" IMHO is a module that runs at the highest frequency at spec voltage with the best timings possible. In the case with DDR3, a lot of modules sold as 1333mhz will only guarantee operation at out-of-spec voltage, regardless of the timings. That really, REALLY stinks.

Great example of irony here: Kingston actually has one of the fastest DDR3-1333 modules out there, a DIMM rated for 1333mhz @ 1.5V running 8-8-8-24 http://www.valueram.com/datasheets/KVR1333D3N8_1G.pdf This is their VALUE ram, the supposed "cheap stuff", whereas a "DDR3-1375" module (there is no such thing) from their pricey "HyperX" memory is in reality a DDR3-1066 DIMM that needs to be overvolted to 1.7v to work at DDR3-1333.
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