j.,
Your comments are duly noted. Thank you. more inline below..........
At 06:12 11/24/2008 -0800, you wrote:
My asus Rampage uses all ICH9 support for SATA and the the JMicron just
for a single PATA port. Should not be an issue getting them to work unless
you have RAID or ACH enabled in the BIOS causing issues due to non-HDD
devices attached.
Understand. Your Rampage and my P5Q3 appear to be wired a bit
differently. Not an issue. I do not enable RAID; and, when I did try [ACH]
the board no longer saw my bootable hard drive (just like Brian
mentioned). Switching the SATA bios setting back to [enhanced/ide] brought
the hard drive and dvdrom back to bear again. The UM is very lean on
explaining this 3-choice switch in bios. I will spend time in the future
with independent reviewers of this level of AMI bios. I have not seen an
AMI bios since ~1975. Something new to learn; I have 3 of these m/b's, so I
will have 3 machines with similar logic.
Farenheight readings mean nothing in the computer world, give us some
Ceilcus numbers. There's 3 base temps CPU diode (real temp), CPU (mobo
temp under socket), case (mobo ambient temp). Then you get into the NB, SB
temps.
OK. Sorry about that. I was aware the collective has switched to
Celsius. ATM, my new test platform is currently doing 48C (buttoned-up).
I'll assume this may be idle because the only app running is Probe II. The
motherboard temp is 44C (buttoned-up. I do not see a 'case temp', and I
know nothing about the NB or SB ATM. This m/b seems to be greatly stripped
down from that vastly more expensive Pro, Deluxe, and Wifi versions of the
same m/b. The good news is that this m/b has everything I believe I will
need now and in the near future. Yes, these boards may lack a boatload of
other creature features, but I do not have a use for those ATM. It is a
P45x and uses DDR3. That is a good start for me. And, it is (so far)
stable as a brick.
Probe sucks big time & no real replacement exists that is 1. free, 2.
reads all the sensors. Probe tends to prevent use of a networked printer.
Also Beware of AITuner, etc... apps as FUD.
I do hope we can agree to disagree. Yet again, LOL! I will accept your
review of Probe in any/all of it's permutations. I will accept that it may
have some trouble, but I have used it without trouble for the past 10 years
without loosing a single PC to some 'faulty' display reading. I do not run
Probe 24/7; I run it when I am curious about basic power or fan condition
(w/o rebooting to bios).
So far, Probe has alerted me to 6 suspect psu's going south (over the
years), and, more dying cooling fans than I can count. I appreciate your
share, but I will continue to use Probe. In the end, I was just sharing my
impression about how much more improved Probe II is vs. the old Probe
v2.2.04 I use on my other Asus-based machines. I may yet try to load Probe
II on one of my other machines. I expect trouble, but it could be interesting!
Best,
Duncan
DHSinclair wrote:
The Intel PC has finally settled down. I spent the 1st days scratching my
head but finally upgraded the m/b bios from the default 04041 to 0404;
and then to 0502. This became necessary because the PC would only run
for 20-35 minutes before it just re-booted itself. Odd. At bios 0502
this behavior has stopped.
It now seems that JMicron SATA logic does NOT work happily with the ICH10
logic on the P5Q3. And, sadly, the JMicron logic owns/controls the single
EIDE/PATA connector on the m/b (along with its' two hard drive only SATA
connectors). Another odd, but OK.
Initially, I tried one of the Sabrent SATA/IDE converters on my dvdrom.
It was not recognized on the SATA connector. Once I finally decided the
converter was toast and used a different Sabrent converter, Bingo! The
dvdrom (pata) is now a fully recognized SATA client! And, I was able to
disable the JMicron logic in bios. The PC is now stable and has logged
some 50hours of continuous on-time with a single glitch. I have
temporarily given up on JMicron. I will do more study, but for now, this
PC will be fully SATA.
Now that the aluminum case is fully buttoned up, I have used the newest
Asus Probe II to monitor the power, cpu temp, m/b temp, and, fan
speeds. Currently, my E8400 is cruising along at ~117F. The m/b reads
~110F, but this seems odd. Perhaps this is just where on the m/b this
sensor lives.
The last version of Asus Probe I used was v2.04. This new Probe II is
hugely improved. Certainly more eye candy, but it also seems to have
included most/all of the old H.Oda tool for checking out a cpu and the
associated I/O. It now lists information about everything I have plugged
into the m/b; in full detail! I do like this program.
The new PC has proved that my old 160GB pata hard drive and old AOpen
dvdrom are AOK. I did complete a fully patched w2ksp4 install. The OS
is still a bit confused, but working. I still have duplicates of
primary eide controller, primary and secondary channels, system board,
and, what seems like too many 'm/b resources' and USB stuff. The USB
stuff is not an issue ATM. This m/b has 12 USB ports! I see lots more
USB in my future!
All in all, I am very happy with this new kit. It provides plenty of
challenge and growth in the next several years for me. And, it runs stock
at 3GHz which is plenty fast for what I need to do. I will pass on
dabbling on the AITweaker section of the bios. I do not see a need to OC
this PC ATM.
Just my initial impressions for now. Suggestions and comments are welcome!
Best,
Duncan
