the jump from 20" to 24" is amazing! I did that. sooooo much better for
photo and video editing. the only problem is I want a second one but just
don't have the space right now.

Have fun with the screen :)

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair
Sent: 03 January 2009 21:18
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] DVI-VGA adapters

Neil,
My bad. Mike popped up and told me to check my box. Sure enough, I did find 
the DVI-DVI cable still in a sealed baggy!   I'll put it on my project list 
for testing this year................
I'm still so happy with the VGA of this panel, I have not thought about DVI 
at all!  This 20in WS is so nice, I may just pop for the 24in WS for the 
new, improved gaming PC!  It never ends.......Cha! Ching!!
Sorry,
Duncan

At 20:46 01/03/2009 +0000, you wrote:
>You mean the Dell didn't come with a DVI cable? I would have thought it
>should, my Dell 24" I got a year and a half ago came with both.
>
>I don't know what the 20" panels are like, but my 24" is a lot better with
>DVI than it was on VGA. Granted I went from a laptop with integrated Intel
>graphics to a nVidia Quadro which probably helped too.
>
>Neil.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
>[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair
>Sent: 03 January 2009 18:28
>To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
>Subject: Re: [H] DVI-VGA adapters
>
>Neil,
>That explanation and link completely blew away all the smoke!  I will move
>forward as though all 3 adapters are compatible.  Yes, I still operate in
>the analog video modes because my KVM switch will only switch the old
>15-pin DSub type of cable(s).
>
>My new Dell 20in WS panel does have the DVI connector, but I do not have a
>DVI-DVI cable to play with yet................ :)
>
>One day soon, I may start a search for KVM switches that use USB
>(kbd/mouse) and digital video switching.
>
>Thank you so much.  The Collective does rule!!
>Happy New Year!!!!
>Duncan
>
>At 18:14 01/03/2009 +0000, you wrote:
> >All you need to know (and more) about DVI can be found on Wikipedia (just
> >like everything else :)
> >
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface
> >
> >the four pins either side of the blade are the analogue signal. Some of
the
> >other pins contain analogue signals as part of the VGA/DVI spec. It's
>though
> >these pins that monitors detect whether a cable is connected to a card
and
> >vice versa.
> >
> >MSI/GW Adapter is purely DVI-A or Analogue only. This is fine, this is
all
> >it needs to be.
> >
> >The eVga has all the pin on the DVI side, but the digital connections
won't
> >be attached to anything on the analogue side, i guess it's just a
standard
> >part they have chosen to use when manufacturing the adapter.
> >
> >Hope this makes sense.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
> >[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair
> >Sent: 03 January 2009 16:53
> >To: Hardware Group
> >Subject: [H] DVI-VGA adapters
> >
> >Have noticed that most new video cards now come only with DVI connectors.
> >If lucky, there will be an adapter in the box to convert the DVI
connector
> >back to the older VGA 15-pin DSub connector.
> >This is fine. And, yes, I do understand that video cards may now come
with
> >HDMI connections also.
> >
> >So, I now have these 3 DVI-VGA adapters.  One from an old Gainward card
of
> >~2000, one from an eVga FX5500 of 2004, and now one from a new MSI R4670
of
> >2008.  I am confused about these adapters.  2 (the GW and the MSI) are
the
> >same.  The eVga adapter is different.  It is the number of pins on the
DVI
> >side ... !!!
> >
> >(MSI adapter)  L->R
> >What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom.
> >3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom, 1 missing from this block of 9.
> >3 top missing, 3 middle missing, 3 bottom missing.
> >2 top, 2 middle missing, 2 bottom.
> >
> >(GW adapter)  L->R
> >What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom.
> >block of 9 pins; 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom w/1missing pin (lower right)
> >blank space in middle (perhaps 6 pins worth)
> >block of 9 pins; 1 missing and 2 pins top, 3 pins missing middle, 1
missing
> >and 2 pins bottom.
> >
> >(The eVga adapter)  L->R
> >What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom.
> >full array of 24 pins; 8 top, 8 middle, and 8 bottom.
> >
> >I really wish to hope all 3 adapters are compatible?  I searched the web
> >but have not found much info about these adapters except some odd
warnings
> >of incompatibilities.  I'll accept that conversion of the  DVI connector
to
> >the 15-pin DSub VGA connector may affect video quality.
> >
> >Any information, links, opinions are welcome.  I have not ever used a DVI
> >based video cable yet. I have never even seen one!
> >Thank you,
> >Duncan

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