Bino,
You are preaching to the knowing here. It did take me many years of
"education" by the Collective to get to my current "tin-hat" way of using
browsers.
On balance, I completely agree. But, let's agree that we just might be a
bit more astute than most of the folk we might run into.
ATM, I now deal with my Older Brother, Sister, her Husband, and their two
boys (21 and 18). All of them are "experts." Until something
happens! But, I am OLD. I am not Current. I am not with IT!
LOL!
Perhaps true. But, I am not the one that is NOW infected................. :)
There is some fun with age (and the right contacts)!
Wot? Me Worry?............not!
Best,
Duncan
At 12:32 01/27/2009 -0800, you wrote:
Been using IE in various versions for last decade or so, and never a
virus/Trojan/explot on any kind from web-browsing. You just have to know
what you're doing and not go to malware sites or click on the wrong thing
and make sure your security controls are set to the proper levels, etc.
And this is with no personal firewall or AV software installed/running btw.
I do check occasionally just to verify/sanity-check, but that's just how I
roll! ;P
BINO
-----Original Message-----
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Greg Sevart
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:33 AM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] IE7 problem
I use and like both. IE is my default, but I have an "Open in Firefox" menu
item configured in IE. I use FF for any website I consider suspicious. By
the way, IE7 under Vista with UAC enabled has proven invulnerable to a great
number of exploits. FF doesn't have a perfect security record either. That's
the nature of software development.
My biggest problems with Firefox:
1. It doesn't use the native Windows certificate store. On a Windows
platform, maintaining a separate certificate store is absolutely absurd (and
potentially insecure). This is especially a pain on intranet sites using
certificates issued by your own organizational CA. On a Windows domain, the
CA's certificate is automatically added to the computer account's trusted
root store.
2. I can't approve, install, validate, and report on patch status using
WSUS.
3. I can't control settings and values via GPO.
Loading fast is actually a fairly big win for me. I'm very impatient with
machines. FF3 does (finally) render faster than IE now, though, likely due
to the improved JavaScript engine. Supposedly IE8 makes strides in this area
as well, so we'll see.
Finally, compatibility. Yes, sites should not tailor for any particular
browser. I know many intentionally avoid sites/retailers/products due to
incompatibility with their preferred browser. Frankly, I don't care--I just
want sites to work. Your best chance at that is presently IE. This is
especially true in the corporate world with business applications and/or
homegrown solutions. Not to mention that OWA2007 under IE is quite possibly
the first webmail that I would seriously consider using in replacement of a
real mail client...
Greg
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
> boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Thane Sherrington
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:23 AM
> To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] IE7 problem
>
> At 04:18 PM 26/01/2009, DHSinclair wrote:
> >Thane,
> >Thanks for this. Another black star for IE7!
> >Perhaps why IE8 is soon to appear???? LOL!
>
> Heh heh. Anyone using IE7 over FF3 is crazy, in my experience. IE7
> is a vulnerable to almost every every attack out there, has a clunky
> interface out of the box - the only upside to it is that it loads
> quickly because half of it loads when Windows starts.
>
> It may be time for MS to exit the browser arena, seeing as FF and
> Chrome seem to be battling for the championship.
>
> T
>
