Steve,
You are correct. I do not 'work' nowhere any longer. I am retired. I
thought I borrowed enough smarts to get me to my ultimate 'dirt nap.'
I agree with your share. I am sure the M$ is very good at communicating
in-house with their 'literati,' but they always to not share with the
common 'pond-scum' users. Sorry, I have nurtured this belief for many
years. The ethos continues.
Yes, Brian, I am looking at Ubuntuseriously again. I will force myself
to suffer the 'learning curve!'
I know that M$ and Google are locked in a warfor the hearts and minds of
all of us netizens. Fine. I'd like to think I get it.
Not too sure any longer.
Thanks. Best,
Duncan
On 04/26/2014 20:50, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
Not your fault, Duncan, you don't work for Microsoft ;-). I've got
this figured out now. The one big problem with Microsoft is that
nothing they do is explained very well. Usually it's technically
correct, but practically useless. Go ahead and set the 30 day
'recovery' on your hotmail account. You'll still be able to access
your email from a browser. Again, it's not obvious, but when you log
on and it admonishes your that your 30 days ain't up yet, just hit the
next button and you're right into your inbox. My mistake not hitting
the obvious button.
Steve
On 4/26/2014 8:43 PM, DSinc wrote:
Steve,
I apologize for somehow walking you into the same quicksand I found.
Yes, I am ready to just walk away from M$/Hotmail.
I will come back with questions about GMail. Yes, I do have
some....................
My Older Brother has a GMail account. I plan to speak with him
also.Perhaps it is time for me to also join the 'force.'
Again, Sorry for your new situation. I never intended for any of the
Collective to repeat my behavior that got me into this
stupid circular 'game.' At this point, I can freely walk away from
Hotmail/Outlook/whatever and just let them choke on my stored
email. I believe I have pretty much done an fwd to my (this) ISP addy.
Thanks,
Duncan
On 04/26/2014 19:26, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
Actually, there is more to the story now. I tried to verify the
account that had the sbcglobal address as verification. Naively, I
figured I could go into settings, change the back email address then
verify. Wrong. Everywhere I went, I couldn't change any of my
settings without going through the verification. So I stepped
through verification, giving them another email address to verify
with. Surprise! Since I didn't give them the one in settings, they
tell me that I have to wait 30 days for them to 'recover' my
security settings. But wait, it says here that while I'm waiting, I
can still access my emails. Whew! I use this hotmail account for
just about everything (I've had this account since 1994). So I push
forward, let them 'recover' my settings. Then another Surprise! I
log in and now I can't access my email, despite what they said. I'm
presented with a page that asks me if I 'remember' my security
settings now and then I can cancel the 30 days. Well, it's not
enough that I can remember the email address (which they ask for),
they want to send an email to that address and nowhere is there a
way to tell them that that address no longer exists. Well, I've held
onto hotmail for 20 years, no longer, changing everybody over to
gmail now. The one bright spot is that tbird can still download my
email from that account. However, if anything goes to spam by
mistake, I'm screwed, at least for the next 30 days.
On 4/26/2014 7:03 PM, DSinc wrote:
Steve,
What you share is what I am seeing also. I sort of consider the
email addy I use here with the Collective to be my
true/real email addy. As a general rulle I never use this addy with
commercial/industrial links. That is what Hotmail is/was
for.
Back in March I started to try and take down another 'old' email
account at Lycos.com (mailcity.com). Those folks are
driving me crazy with 'supporting information' hoops to jump
through. I never knew canceling an old free email account
was this difficult. Old dogs can learn new tricks, I suppose.
Thanks for the reply,
Duncan
On 04/26/2014 15:58, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
I have two hotmail accounts. I rarely ever go to the hotmail (or
microsoft or live or outlook or whatever it is this week), but
have tbird pick up my mail. With this thread, I went to
www.hotmail.com for both accounts, both of them required a
'verification'. Microsoft insisted that they send a code to my
alternate (non-hotmail) email address. On my main account, the
alternate email was extinct (an sbcglobal address, that's how long
since I looked at my settings) so I delayed the verification by 7
days (M$ said it was REQUIRED in 7 days) but the other has been
verified and back to normal.
Steve
On 4/26/2014 3:45 PM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
I use hotmail. Nothing has changed for me, Duncan.
On Apr 26, 2014, at 1:26 PM, DSinc <dsinc...@epbfi.com> wrote:
Brian,
Great question. I will dig around and correct any bad links. I
have been using the same 'Hotmail' link
for the past 15 years!
http://www.hotmail.com. Hmm.
Thanks,
Duncan
On 04/26/2014 13:02, Brian Weeden wrote:
Duncan, are you 100% certain you are going to
https://outlook.com? Because
there is no way the real Microsoft is going to send you to
nunyabizness.com
---------
Brian
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 12:54 PM, DSinc <dsinc...@epbfi.com>
wrote:
Brian,
Thanks for the share. More inline below..........
On 04/26/2014 12:10, Brian Weeden wrote:
Duncan, it sounds like some sort of 2-factor authentication
has been
enabled on your account. It might be part of some new
security procedures
Microsoft is putting in place, as are many others.
Yes, this did occur to me; however, M$ usually announces
pending changes
well in
advance of turning it on. I am aware that 'Hotmail' is now called
Outlook.com, but I have
been told to use my old Hotmail creds which no longer work.
When you log in with a normal username and password, you are
using
"something you know" (ie your password) to prove your
identity. A 2-factor
system adds another type of verification, usually "something
you have"
(like a dongle that generates random keys) or "something you
are" (like a
fingerprint). For example, I have 2-factor enabled on my
Gmail account and
when I go to log in it requires both a password and a
one-time code
generated by an app on my phone. I can set it so I don't need
to re-enter
the code on the same computer for 30 days. The advantage is
that if
someone
gets my password, they still can't access my account without
also having
the second factor (in my case my phone).
I understand your share. Perhaps true. They keep asking me for
a 'Security
Code.'
But I do not know what it is! They do give me 3 ways to share
this code:
1. A valid un...@nunyabizness.com (clueless!)
2. The last 4 digits of my phone number (no good)
3. A text file to something or other (I read a 'smartphone')
In any case, the confusing additional logic they give gives me
pause and
does not work per my
comprehension. I am 66.
The other thing that may be happening is that you are locked
out of your
account, and Microsoft is trying to send you a code to verify
that you are
you by another means, like a second email account or a text
to your phone.
Maybe you had one of those set up on your account and forgot
about it, or
changed emails/phones?
Tes, perhaps, but, per above, M$ is making this interchange
damn neat
impossible.
In either case, I think maybe calling Microsoft might help.
They should be
able to rest your account, provided you can prove that you
are you to
them.
Fine. Do you have a working phone number I can try next Monday
afternoon?
Thanks,
Duncan
On Saturday, April 26, 2014, DSinc <dsinc...@epbfi.com> wrote:
Brian,
Thanks for the share. I was too pissed yesterdy to reply.
Now post a sleep, wakeup, and a cold beer, I've come just
give up and let M$ just erase my old mid-1990's account and all
the stored email. I suppose I am just disappointed that yet
another
block in the M$ 'wall of shame' is dorked up to me.
I will speak to my ISP about a 2d email address for
business/commercial
use.
Thanks,
Duncan
On 04/26/2014 01:53, Bryan Seitz wrote:
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 09:23:37PM -0400, DSinc wrote:
What is up with Microsoft Hotmail/Outlook.com?
My long old uname/pw creds no longer work; and I get sent
to some page
that requests a 'security code.' I am clueless how to
proceed, but it
appears that
something will happen on 5/14/14 if I don't do something.
Has M$ been
hacked?
I don't know but i'd honestly not use that ;)