Ok Greg, funny enough now that I tested it with my laptop battery discharged to 
~20%, I got completely different #s today:

As it's charging up I saw a .99 PF at .9 Amps and 105VA and thus 105watts!

And now that the battery is fully charged I'm seeing a PF of .97 or so 
(.95-.99) at .5 Amps and 57VA and thus 55 watts...

So any idea why/how I'm getting a PF of ~.97 or so when I was getting .5 or so 
yesterday?!  Or is my Kill A Watt broken (which I don't think it is)?  Nothing 
I read online so far explained why a power supply would vary so much, 
especially since it's obvious that it IS a PFC PS after all since if it wasn't, 
it wouldn't be capable of such a high PF...

Curious and just trying to learn...

(Hoping this gets formatted correctly too-trying it from Firefox which I 
realized I hadn't tried yet-tried IE9 and Chrome-woulda thought Chrome would've 
been fine... :P)


> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 18:00:45 -0500
> Subject: Re: [H] PFC (power factor corrected) PS for PCs?
> 
> If you're trying to find max load, I would encourage discharging the battery
> to 60% or so and re-installing it, and then stress the internal components
> to 100%. Keep in mind that your power adapter needs to not only power the
> system itself, but also the battery charging circuit. Your worst case load
> will be doing 100% utilization while charging a depleted battery.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:hardware-
> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
> > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 5:09 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [H] PFC (power factor corrected) PS for PCs?
> > 
> > The input is the (rms) voltage (fixed, depending on where on the planet
> > you are) and max current expected to be drawn from the wall socket.
> > Those are AC.
> > 
> > The output is DC that comes out of the converter to supply your laptop.
> > It would be wise to meet these specs if you replace it, though you could
> > probably make it work if you got close (exact on voltage and close on
> > current), but you'd better not force the laptop to 100% load.  Looks
> > like your laptop can draw 120W max.  The input (wall) can easily simply
> > that @ 2A.
> > 
> > The pf of 0.5 isn't bad according to your power company since you draw
> > comparatively tiny current  and power and your leads are short, so
> > you're not losing huge amounts of power to heating wires and stuff. From
> > a purely 'green' POV, it could be considered bad...but you also have to
> > consider the cost of PFC on a unit like your laptop. Probably not much
> > to gain by it.
> > 
> > Draining the battery won't cause your laptop to draw max power.  For
> > that you need to load it up with some benchmark that drives the HDs,
> > CPU, and GPU as hard as possible. You could even remove the battery and
> > draw power straight from the wall socket.  No good reason to stress the
> > battery.
> > 
> > Yes, if you expect to run your machines at max load then you need to
> > budget accordingly.  I don't run my machines at max load, though, so I
> > can get lots more time from a UPS than would be indicated by using max
> > load conditions.
> > 
> 
> 
                                          

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