Boz,
You change email addy's faster than a camelion, LOL!
Fine, I am now thinking 16GB, but may start at 8GB just for S&G's.
The reason to keep my 160GB spindles active is just cost. They run
fine, have no smart errors, and hum right along. Slow? Perhaps in
view of SSD's, yes. But, any 'spindle' is slow relative to an SSD;
when reasonable cost is assumed. Let's call the SSD afuture
upgrade ATM.
Yes, I was surprised that Crucial showed me product; well, I knew
they would. But, after drilling thru Greg's link to the Asus HCL, I was
disappointed that Crucial was never mentioned, and, that G.Skill was
rampant. Odd methinks. Somehow, I keep forgetting that it is 2012;
and, I'm still thinking 2000 and 2008. Sadly, I do not keep current.
Actually, my biggest 'burst of speed' was in 2008 when I build my current
brace of C2D E8400's (3). This old upgrade was an immediate visual and
normal operation awareness.
The prior collection of Intel and AMD cpus was my 'test' of that old battle.
And, yes. Even the AMD cpus I've used showed me 'speed' I did not have
with my old Intel iP233 (Abit IT-5H) 'blaster.' LOL!
The C2D @3.0GHz was a real eye-openerto me.
ATM, I am kinda back to being an Intel guy again.
Duncan
On 12/03/2012 05:44, James Boswell wrote:
I totally agree with Greg on point 1, surprised by point 2... and
1. Crucial M4 is also worthy, keeping 160GB spindles in use at this point
is just being obtuse. the difference in feel between a NEW harddisk and an
SSD is massive, between an old spindle and an SSD it's like going from the
386 to a Pentium 2
3. 16GB is also very very cheap, which is why I'm running 16 here :)
On 2 December 2012 21:55, Greg Sevart <[email protected]> wrote:
My thoughts:
1. Dump the ancient HDDs and either buy something current or, more
preferably, go buy Samsung 830, 840, or 840 Pro SSDs. Cannot overemphasize
this point--it would be a tragedy to pair those nice systems with such
horribly slow, outdated drives.
2. Honestly, I'm not fond of ESET's antimalware. When I tested it several
years back (in a work scenario) against several others, its actual system
impact (in terms of performance delta vs. no AV) was FAR greater than its
reputation would lead you to believe--it was in the worst half of the
bunch.
I'd recommend MSE, but that seems to have declined as of late for 0-day
threats. A MSE + MalwareBytes Pro combo may be the best bet right now.
3. 2x4GB=8GB is an appropriate amount. 32GB is overkill unless you're doing
something special (e.g., running multiple local VMs), and any less doesn't
really save you much.
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To: HWG
Subject: [H] Ram musing?
(Yes, Boz, I did mis-type my last. I really meant 32GB!) Fine.
But, I've backed off a bit............... :)
So, I am circling in on my new machines(3).
Plan to re-use my SeaSonic 610w psus.
Plan to re-use my nVidia 5900GT video cards (unless circumstances make this
difficult).
Plan to re-use my Seagate sata 160GB hds (3.0GB series.)
These machines will run to failure for their lives. I plan their
lifetimeat 4 years (2016).
Well, unless I see my electric bill take an upward spike!
That said, I think I've chosen the Asus P8Z77-V-Pro m/b. It seems to
give me
most of the 'new', but, still lets me do some 'old' also. Plus, it does
give me one
Intel on-board NIC. To me, this is important!
Yes, I will most likely start Win7 on each in 64-bit mode; though I do
have some long
memories of ESET A/V having a long list of glitches w/64-bit operation.
Yes, I will deal
with FireFox Browser and ThunderBird Email in 64-bit also. I still can
not fathom what
Office 2003 will present me with yet.
Thinking about machine base RAM. Thinking about 8GB to start (2x 4GB).
Seems like
a lot, but I do use 2GB in WinXP now.
The Egg has a deal of 8GB for $70 w/m/b. It is there 'Xtreme' series
(one rev back per
the G.Skill website. Fine.
Have not visited the Corsair website yet. I've never used Corsair Ram.
Today, I see that Crucial offers RAM for the m/b. The price is ~half the
G.Skill Ram.
Decisions, decisions? Opinions, suggestions, experiences welcome.
Duncan