On 13-12-22 10:10 AM, Ariel Malka wrote: > I'm trying to render "regular" (i.e. modern, horizontal) Japanese with > Harfbuzz. > > So far, I have been using HB_SCRIPT_KATAKANA and it looks similar to what is > rendered via browsers. > > But after examining other rendering solutions I can see that "automatic script > detection" can often take place. > > For instance, the Mapnik project is using ICU's "scrptrun", which, given the > following sentence: > > ユニコードは、すべての文字に固有の番号を付与します > > would detect a mix of Katakana, Hiragana and Han scripts. > > But for instance, it would not change anything if I'd render the sentence by > mixing the 3 different scripts (i.e. instead of using only > HB_SCRIPT_KATAKANA.) > > Or are there situations where it would make a difference?
As it happens, those three scripts are all considered "simple", so the shaping logic in HarfBuzz is the same for all three. Where it does make a difference is if the font has ligatures, kerning, etc for those. OpenType organizes those features by script, and if you request the wrong script you will miss out on the features. > I'm asking that because I suspect a catch-22 situation here. For example, the > word "diameter" in Japanese is 直径 which, given to "scrptrun" would be > detected as Han script. > > As far as I understand, it could be a problem on systems where > DroidSansFallback.ttf is used, because the word would look like in Simplified > Chinese. > > Now, if we were using MTLmr3m.ttf, which is preferred for Japanese, the word > would have been rendered as intended. How you do font selection and what script you pass to HarfBuzz are two completely separate issues. Font fallback stack should be per-language. > Reference: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=183830 > > Any feedback would be appreciated. Note that the wisdom accumulated here will > be translated into tangible info and code samples (see > https://github.com/arielm/Unicode) > > Thanks! > Ariel > > > _______________________________________________ > HarfBuzz mailing list > HarfBuzz@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/harfbuzz > -- behdad http://behdad.org/ _______________________________________________ HarfBuzz mailing list HarfBuzz@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/harfbuzz
