Dear Greg, Noel, If my following statements are not correct. Please correct me ASAP.
Folks, For now the situation is as follows (till someone takes a step, from ASF side or FSF side): - No one can check-in classpath jars or sources into Apache's SVN repo. - Java code in ASF SVN repository can "import" from classpath jars. - Classpath jars can't be part of the download/install image of Harmony. I guess, it gives us a narrow sliver to continue working till someone takes a step forward. which could be in a number of creative ways on both sides. I believe i've listed some possibilities in previous emails. others are welcome to chime in with other ideas as well. thanks, dims On 5/12/05, Greg Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dims, > > The current position of the ASF is that all of our software is licensed > under the Apache License. No dual licensing, no variations, and no special > exceptions for any of our codebases. This provides our users with a very > simple model of licensing. Everything is licensed the same way with no > hidden "gotchas" to trip up users, distributors, developers, VARs, etc. > > This singular licensing model is and will remain in effect. If you would > like an exception, then you will need to provide a Board resolution to > make it happen. Given that the Apache License is *very* flexible, I'm > unclear on what that resolution could propose for change. > > Any resolution will not be deferred to "the next board", but it will be > discussed and voted upon at a board meeting (May 18th or June 22nd). If > you believe and require that a vote is needed outside of that, then we can > make it happen. > > Regarding the bundling of GPL'd software (e.g. Classpath): my > understanding is that would require the entire package falls under the > GPL. Even if an exception is made by the authors of the GPL'd software, > you would still have an ASF package with a mixed license (which is more > constraining that our Apache License). > > Cheers, > -g > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... ASF Chairman ... http://www.apache.org/ > > > On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 07:59:58AM -0400, Davanum Srinivas wrote: > > Greg, Noel, > > > > Any ETA on when we can get some information from you regarding this? > > We are all anxiously waiting. As mentioned we need legal review and > > feedback regarding GPL+Exception and we need to get the ball rolling > > on getting our concerns cleared with the FSF folks. > > > > Thanks, > > dims > > > > PS: *Please* don't make us wait for the next board to take office. > > > > On 5/11/05, Davanum Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dear Board and Incubator PMC, > > > > > > Please read the Proposal[1] and the FAQ[2] for Apache Harmony. We'd > > > like to use GNU Classpath (pure java) for the class libraries. The > > > problems the way i see it is documented in this email[3]. Please > > > review all 3 items and provide guidance on *IF* the pmc/board is going > > > to allow us to go futher down this path and under what conditions. I > > > believe quite a few of us have built a great rapport with everyone > > > working on this from the FSF and other affiliations. Ideally we'd like > > > to get some help to review if the the GPL+Exception is acceptable and > > > the FSF folks explicitly mentioned on the harmony mailing lists that > > > they are willing to work with us on it. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > dims > > > > > > [1] > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/200505.mbox/[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED] > > > [2] > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/200505.mbox/[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED] > > > [3] > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/200505.mbox/[EMAIL > > > PROTECTED] > > > -- > > > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/ > > > > > > > -- > > Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/ > -- Davanum Srinivas - http://webservices.apache.org/~dims/